So today is the first day I play after preparing for two weeks. My accurate rate is at about 98% only. Played for about 8 hours at 5 quarters. Taking $10 home. Was up $40 the highest and down to less than $20 lowest.
I made a lot of mistakes. A lot of times when I flopped pair of 2, with AJK etc, kept the 2s, then A or one of the other high card came. There are times AJK came, I kept JK, then A came. Sometimes I even wonder if I should strictly follow the correct way to play. Feedback please?
Even though there are 4 full pay machines, obviously two machines are more loose than the other. It's a positive experience. 8 hours of fun and I got to go home without losing. The last two time I went to the casino playing slots lost $300 each trip in less than 1.5 hours.
always make the correct play !! ignore could of should have. the hottest machine is the one with highest expected value , known as EV. this is commencerate with variance and bankroll. as bob d pointed out numerous times the return can be under 100 % but add in cash back ect. can still be positive !! the only locks r in the hardware store ,I forgot the rest of that saying.if anyone can help appreciated !!
The truth is you can win as well as lose on any machine at any time. There is no such thing as a hot machine. It only seems to be the case.
I'll tell you a little story you may enjoy. My wife was playing VP a while ago and she was losing all day. It was about time to go home and she told me she wanted to leave. I was winning, so I asked her to stand behind me for 15 more minutes and we would leave. She sat back down on the exact machine she had been playing. Disgusted, she put in one more $20 bill. She hit a royal flush on the terrible machine that had taken her money all day. The problem with hot machines is you don't know they're hot or cold until it's over.
You should always play the best games you can find. This allows you to play more hands with your money. It doesn't always mean you will win more on a particular day. It means you have more chances at a jackpot. Some of the worst daily losses I have seen have been on near 100% games. Some of the best wins I have seen have been on 97% games. In time, the lower the odds the more it costs you to play.
Your observation that playing VP is better than playing slots is a good one. Played right, VP is the biggest bargain in the casino. In my opinion, you will gain more from comps than trying to play 100% computer perfect. Perfect play forever is nearly impossible. Slow down and do the best you can to eliminate errors. Many players don't realize the casino is willing to give you all kinds of things just for playing there. Comps are a separate game altogether. If it weren't for comps, I wouldn't play VP.
Video poker machines are not loose or tight, hot or cold. There is no " beast" mode the casinos can press a button and change the way the game pays.
Successful video players need to understand the relationship between math and the long term.
Slot players are hunters. Get into the woods, shoot a lot and settle for what they find for the day.
Successful Video poker players are harvesters. They play the long game, not worried about today, confident that the game and the math will do just what it is going to do.
If there are two things you must learn about video poker, it is that short term results are meaningless and that there are far too many charlatans out there who try to use their lack of mathematical understanding as a soapbox.
Making money as a video poker player is a grind. Making decent money as a quarter player is not easy or fun. People who do experience long term success put in a lot of work outside of the casino. You need become EXPERT in players clubs and learn to exploit casino opportunities.
I recently told someone of a great overnight promo and was told that the person played afternoons, not overnights. That person may enjoy the game but the chances of long term are not great.
Best of fortune.
speaking of quarter players,does anyone remember the asain player known as the typewriter.he would play 2 fullpay deuces 100.76% at the same time making apx. 17 dollars per hour.tax free !!
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Speaking of Jacks or Better. 9/6 Jacks or Better seems to be the gold standard for profitable VP. I suppose that happened as a result of Mr. Dancer's book. This game is a 99.5% game with perfect play. My math tells me the cost of paying this game five quarters at a time is about $2.80 an hour. This assumes the royal flush pays 4,000 coins without any other incentives. At my local casino playing max coin quarters all day earns me about $25 a day in free play. I can't play 9/6 quarter Jacks at my casino. If I could and the free play was the same, my free play alone would cover 8 hours of losses. If we had cash back, I'm sure playing this game could be profitable.
The question is, would you play that game forever? Jacks or Better is a very boring game. To a beginner who is learning the game, not so bad. I can't imagine going to the casino one day a week for years at a time and playing Jacks. I would rather paint my house.
In my case, all the games I have to play are negative even with comps. This changes things. I know I am going to pay to play. The question is how much? From my experience Deuces Wild is the better choice. I need more out of a video poker game than one big jackpot every 40,000 hands. If I'm going to pay to play, I want to like my choice.
If I was playing VP strictly for profit, things would be a different. I would only play games when I had an advantage. I would extract every possible comp, freebee, incentive and perk I could find. I would sit on an old stool in the back of a gas station and inhale exhaust fumes if the deal was juicy enough. I know that is a silly example, but I'm wondering how far would you go to play with an advantage?
I've played 9/6 JOB a lot since I started VP back in 1993. I prefer the 9/5 Super Double Bonus that is available at the Borgata, a 99.69% game that I practice on Winpoker and am close to perfect on. Certainly more exciting than JOB, but a lot more volatile. If the premium 4 OAKS are coming, I have won $1,500 in a short session at .50 denom. I also prefer the 9/6 JOB multi strikes to single line JOB.. The best deuces schedule pays 98.9% at the Borg, so I generally stay away. With cashback and comp dollars, these games are close to 100%. A decent gamble. I have learned over the years that if you play 9/6 JOB exclusively, everything comes down to the Royal. A long dry spell is frustrating as all hell, but happens a lot.
We play 98.9% Deuces whenever we can. The Hollywood Hard Rock has three of these machines if you know where to find them. That game in quarters is rare in these parts. Most quarter Deuces Wild games in the Southeast are 97%. If you are going to play these games, we have learned you must put some limits on your play. You can't expect to play them for days at a time without a cost. However, it is amazing how cheap you can play them and it is definitely cheaper than slots.
We play in Reno on vacations. It's more difficult to fly there as there are no direct flights from Orlando. When in Reno, we stay and play at the Peppermill. At the Peppermill you can play quarter NSU (99.7%) until your arms fall off. We drive out to Tahoe too. In Tahoe the quarter DW is 97%. We see no difference in our results between these two games. Over the small time we play on vacation, anything can happen.
The way we feel about it, if you have access to good games, play them. If you don't, play them sparingly. If we moved to Vegas and spent our time seeking out the best games and comps, things would be different. We like where we live and don't mind paying a little for our fun. The danger comes when you play these games like you have an advantage when you don't.
The last two time I went to the casino playing slots lost $300 each trip in less than 1.5 hours. 
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