going for the 3 card hold?

[FloridaPhil]

That 100/60 Deuces Wild game is the game my wife plays all the time. It's also the most common quarter pay schedule we find. Like all Deuces Wild games, your daily results will revolve around quad deuce jackpots. Hit one or more and all is good, don't hit one and it will be a struggle.

My wife holds all Ace high non deuce royal flush draws (A-10, A-K, A-Q and A-J). Her reasoning is with 4 wild cards still left in the deck, she has a better chance of hitting wild royals for $25 and she does. Three times so far, she has hit a natural $1,000 royal with this strategy. I have hit two myself this way. The hand you won't get doing this is a quad deuce.

The software says this "error" costs 1-4 cents each time you make it, so there is a long term cost. To her it's worth it.

Cheap Strategy (CS) has a few advantages and one major disadvantage. It allows a player who plays 97% games to play more hands with the same bankroll while retaining the possibility of a max coin jackpot. I created it to reduce my cost to play when I played VP in Biloxi for days at a time. Unless you are on a tight budget, I would not use it for a few hours of recreational play. I would play max coins and accept whatever happens. Hitting a royal flush for $62.50 is too much pain for most players.

When you play negative VP games, you are always balancing playing time with cost. Entertainment value enters the equation and that can mean different things to different players.

[stevel96a1]

im not sure if i want to play 97% games especially when theres a five joker poker machine that can be over 100% in ac problem is that machine is hell unless you hit the 2 main jackpots.

Phil, i been tinkering with a betting structure for 100/60 DW and its a tough egg to crack
win poker automatic simulation has a brutal time getting to hand number 15,000 without exhausting the 4,000 BR while 9/6 jacks or 8/5 BP does just fine, problem is i hate waiting so long for a pay out and DW is more of a fun game , the issue i have with CS 10 hands compressed in single coin won't pay me out much and trying to find more than 4 connect winners is impossible to reach so im trying to figure out a way alterating your bets with a limited bankroll is greater than flatbetting but how to forecast this will take a great mind

[stevel96a1]

i have been playing around with winpoker and what are the effects of each game of each slice of 2400 hands from 97-99.54 games, being down between 1,000 and 2,000 is quite common and rare cases they are at even or ahead after 2400 turns.

i tried this with triple double bonus and its poping through the barriers of 5k and 6k+
and its also down 2k+ more often then not i feel like if im gonna gamble maybe i should do it right

[FloridaPhil]

I switched between CS and max coin play for years. I was always trying to find a way to stretch my playing time and still hit max coin jackpots. Advantage players have a hard time understanding why anyone would do this. As Recreational players, we have limited daily bankrolls. We take to the casino what we budget for the day and when that's gone we are out of the game. If we don't hit a jackpot, we could be gone before we planned. This leads us to the ATM too often.

After literally millions of hands of this, I concluded that I needed to up my daily bankroll, play max coins and go to the casino less often. What was killing me was sitting in the casino for days at a time. If you live in the casino, they will own you. You will do much better long term if you limit your time in front of the machines. You will enjoy your trips more, play more accurately and rid yourself of a potentially bad habit.

We are planning a new road trip for later this year. We are flying to Seattle and casino hopping across the country back to Florida. We will be playing in at least 10 different casinos. Instead of camping in each one, we will play a couple of hours and move on. We will spend more time sightseeing and less time gambling. We will play the best games they have at max coins.

If you are going to play single coin, it's better long term if you stay with single coin all the time. This stretches your money and limits your losses when playing negative games. Most players can't pull this off because the lure of a max coin royal is too much to give up. This doesn't bother me.

Often you will find the dollar single coin odds 1-2% better than the max coin quarter odds. When I find this, I play single coin dollar VP. The strategy is different. If I hit a dollar royal flush at single coin, I am paid $250 which is the same as a max coin quarter quad deuce. I enjoy playing this way, most players would not.

[Carcounter]

im not sure if i want to play 97% games especially when theres a five joker poker machine that can be over 100% in ac problem is that machine is hell unless you hit the 2 main jackpots.

Phil, i been tinkering with a betting structure for 100/60 DW and its a tough egg to crack
win poker automatic simulation has a brutal time getting to hand number 15,000 without exhausting the 4,000 BR while 9/6 jacks or 8/5 BP does just fine, problem is i hate waiting so long for a pay out and DW is more of a fun game , the issue i have with CS 10 hands compressed in single coin won't pay me out much and trying to find more than 4 connect winners is impossible to reach so im trying to figure out a way alterating your bets with a limited bankroll is greater than flatbetting but how to forecast this will take a great mind

Steve, Sounds like the Tropicana still has the 5 joker progressives. haven't been there in a while.

[stevel96a1]

yes it does, i seen the jackpot as high as 3200??
on average its 1600ish

that game has been good to my wife but horrible to me i think its over 100+ when jackpot reaches 2250+
still a tough game to play since your depended on those last 2 top payinng schedules to stay in business

[advantage playe]

didn't that game have a higher pay table a while ago??

[stevel96a1]

not sure, been playing it for over a year it seems like its the next best thing to a FPDW type
trying to hit a jackpot on that thing is 1 out of 84k since the jokers help me as much as they hurt me trying to get a regular royal flush.

it maybe the best poker machine i have access to on the east coast

[advantage playe]

I think it was like 5 years ago that the pay tables were higher, not sure though.