moving to a new state

[Carcounter]

Well, although I appreciate many of Bill R's posts, it is clear that we are wired differently when it comes to politics. The last democrat I voted for was Bill Bradley, who presented himself as a Bipartisan ,work with everyone kind of guy, but turned out to be a standard Democrat shill. New Jersey is a blue state (How in the Hell did we re-elect Bob Menendez?) , but there are places like Monmouth County, where I live and Ocean County that are solid Republican. Although the state is completely mismanaged, our local government works fine and makes this area a good place to live.Seems like I have some stuff in common with Bill R, I grew up in the projects in Queens and I think he is from Long Island. I took one of those tests where you answer questions about where you lean politically, what kind of weather do you like, what activities do you like and it said Texas was the best state for me. That's why we are a great country. A kid from the projects in Queens can wind up in a place like Texas and be happy there. I ain't going anywhere soon though with grandkids here in NJ. I absolutely do understand why people move to lower tax states though. Funny, I remember Bill R saying that was a primary reason why he left New York for Nevada.

[billryan]

You get what you pay for. Long Island has high taxes, but it has a great education system, great hospitals, low crime and the roads are maintained well.
Nevada has bad schools, lousy hospitals, more crime and decent roads.
If you want to embrace greatness, it has a cost. As a father, I'd sacrifice much for my kids and their education. It seems to me that a person who has a great job but poorly educated kids has his priorities out of whack. Nevada is a great place for retirees. Not a place I would send my kids to school, although there are some decent magnet schools if one can get in.
Others disagree.

[Carcounter]

Well, agree with you 100% on getting what you pay for. NJ is a lot like Long Island, high taxes, but excellent schools, parks, golf courses, shopping, low crime. At least in Monmouth County. Not sure I would want to raise a family in Las Vegas or parts of Florida

[notes1]

spending more on something does not guarantee better results. what are the ratings for camden for crime and schools.

DC schools spend more than most per student, yet have some of the worst results. just read an article from harvard school of education, that points out other factors such as demagraphics, income, population makeup, parent involvement are major contributors to school performance.

according to 'city data', monmouth county has above average income, above average education, above average home prices and likely lower crime rates than average. sounds like a great place to live. population makeup is more than 80% white and asian.

compare that to texas schools that have to deal with an army of poor, uneducated immigrants that speak a multitude of languages. my guess would be it is a lot harder to teach this student population.

for all the talk from the left about diversity and equality, where do their leaders live. did obama take up residence in chicago? no, ambassador row in DC and just installed a wall around his house. how about pelosi, soros, you guessed it, neighborhoods most of us could never dream of.

[billryan]

How many photos of Obama's house do you need to see to accept there is no wall ?

[Carcounter]

spending more on something does not guarantee better results. what are the ratings for camden for crime and schools.

DC schools spend more than most per student, yet have some of the worst results. just read an article from harvard school of education, that points out other factors such as demagraphics, income, population makeup, parent involvement are major contributors to school performance.

according to 'city data', monmouth county has above average income, above average education, above average home prices and likely lower crime rates than average. sounds like a great place to live. population makeup is more than 80% white and asian.

compare that to texas schools that have to deal with an army of poor, uneducated immigrants that speak a multitude of languages. my guess would be it is a lot harder to teach this student population.

for all the talk from the left about diversity and equality, where do their leaders live. did obama take up residence in chicago? no, ambassador row in DC and just installed a wall around his house. how about pelosi, soros, you guessed it, neighborhoods most of us could never dream of.

Here in Monmouth County, the city of Asbury Park spends twice as much per student as most other districts, but has the lowest high school graduation rates, plenty of crime, gangs etc. The solution has to come from within the community, not from know it alls who don't live there.

[notes1]

obama lives in an $8m+ house, in one of the highest price neighborhoods in DC.. his house is surrounded by many walls, a high tech guard tower, fences, cement and iron barricades and armed protection that spans the road 1000 feet in both directions.

i would not call that living among the ordinary folks. i am sure there are plenty of poor neighborhoods in chicago that would welcome him.

still waiting for your choices of the many proposals made by your team that i listed, that you would endorse. abortion at birth? medicare for all legal and illegal? socialism?

[notes1]

cc, could not agree more, more money is not always the answer.

i started this thread with a simple premise. if one is looking to move to a new location, make sure the new place has what you want.

don't move to vegas and complain about the gambling, don't move to a low tax area and ask for more services that cause taxes to escalate. respect what the existing legal citizen base has decided.

[Carcounter]

Well at least these threads show that VP players pay attention to stuff that is going on around them. That's a good thing.

[OTABILL]

Interestingly, given this subject, I came across this article today, "Wealthy Americans flee high-tax states, take billions with them: 'Tax the rich. The rich leave'."

[urlhttps://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/1 ... hy-americ/][/url]

BTW, I moved to AZ for love, not financial reasons.