I'm Convinced

The lighter side... playing for entertainment, less concerned about "the math."
Carcounter
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Re: I'm Convinced

Post by Carcounter »

advantage playe wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 8:02 am
hey car , I may be at borgota for the 10x day. its only for 8 hours so I may bring a consortium to play quite high and play enough hands to have a reasonable chance for royal.i figure 4 of us playing over 1000 hands per hour will give us a desant chance.5k min.each on job 3 play so we have 20k bank. we have .5% apx on each spin but as u know no royal for 8 hrs means minus 2.5 % the royal being 2% of the return at full pay job ! no royal= a loooong ride home .!!
Not sure I want to invest 5k for a shot at this, but I will try to get down for the promo. Get there early if you want one of the dollar 9/6 JOB triple plays. Only 2 of them. I will probably play the dollar 9/5 SDB single line. 4 machines in non smoking area and more at the B Bar

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car,I have enough people already thanks.they gave me comped rooms many times but I cancelled the last few times due to not feeling well. I cancelled at the last minute a few times and they were not happy with me. I don't blame them so I better be sure this time if I take the comped rooms. I don't know,maybe.I let u know soon if me and my group will be there.

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FloridaPhil wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 8:28 am
Beating most of today's casino games is pure fantasy. At the moment, my single line bankroll on this website is 50,000 coins. It grew that large by playing a near 100% game and being lucky. I don't claim to have super human skills or to be more intelligent than anyone else on this website. I'm a 72 year old player that wears glasses so I can see the screen. Anyone with any skill at all can play 100% games and make a profit. All it takes is a little luck.

The skill in being an Advantage Player is finding those opportunities. If you paid me a million dollars to find and play a video poker game in a Florida casino with a long term player advantage, I couldn't do it. If you want to learn how to profit from video poker go to the Strategy Forum and ask the expert. That's what he's there for. The Recreational forum is for players who play games without an edge because those are the only games they have to play.
Its not "fantasy" and you could do it. You just don't want to. Nothing wrong with that. I showed you just one way. There are others. Again, you just don't want to.

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Post by billryan »

Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right.
If you believe in yourself, then the only thing keeping you from your goal is time.
If you don't believe in yourself, why should anyone else?

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Post by FloridaPhil »

I have no problem with confidence. I also know the games I have to play are losers and so do you. I keep telling you I don't care and you keep ignoring me. When I say these things, it annoys you. It shouldn't.

The vast majority of us will never play a positive video poker game in our lives. This doesn't make Advantage Play methodology any less useful. If you have a choice, choosing to play the best game is advantageous. Using computer generated card selections extends your play at no additional cost. Every serious video poker player should know these things. The fact that they don't have positive games to play doesn't mean they should stay home.

I want members of this forum to be able to discuss playing video poker any way they wish without someone calling them "delusional". Is that so difficult? Ask the expert if he wants you to continue on this quest. I feel confident he will say you are wasting your time.

The expert knows most players are not going to profit from video poker. He knows most casino games are losers. He also knows he is not going to turn everyone into an AP. He teaches players to be better at whatever games they have to play. For that I am grateful.

Do I need to make a profit from video poker to enjoy the game? Hardly. The casino is there to entertain me. Like all forms of entertainment, there is a cost involved. If you wish to turn pro, fine. Don't try to talk everyone else into it.

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Post by Carcounter »

advantage playe wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 5:34 pm
car,I have enough people already thanks.they gave me comped rooms many times but I cancelled the last few times due to not feeling well. I cancelled at the last minute a few times and they were not happy with me. I don't blame them so I better be sure this time if I take the comped rooms. I don't know,maybe.I let u know soon if me and my group will be there.
I will stop by and say hello. My experience on these 10x days is that you have to have your machine locked up by 10-11 AM.

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Post by seemoreroyals »

FloridaPhil wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 1:34 pm
Math is not the problem. Math is perfect. The problem with gamblers is they believe math only applies to losers. Anyone can beat the casino if they only play 100% games that don't exist. No one runs out of money if another 10,000 coins magically appears when your bankroll is gone.

What we should be teaching players is that playing video poker today costs money. We should talk about ways to limit the cost of playing the games we have. That is a lot harder than saying "Don't play negative VP games". Does anyone seriously think that keeps people from doing it?

I play video poker on this website. I also play in real casinos with real money. I can beat this casino because I can play 100% games and my total cost is $8.95 a month. I can't beat my local casino and neither can anyone else.
When I first started playing the contests on this website I won enough on the contests the first couple of years to more than pay for the $8.95 gold membership fee. Even though I haven't won a contest lately the upgrade cost here is worth it to play without ads, a free training option which is decent but needs improvement to be honest, and all of the other perks.

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Post by advantage playe »

hey car ! not too well of late so I don't think I will be going,thanks for the heads up on getting a seat. I am aware of that . by the way if u r booking rooms for that play,do it now for the same reasons !!

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Post by FloridaPhil »

I think playing video poker on this website is great. I can't imagine how much money it has saved me by keeping me out of the casino. It lets me play games I would never play and odds I will never see.

I went to Tampa today. I had a good day with one quad deuce and a $200 slot jackpot. I stopped by the UltimateX machines today to check out the left over multipliers. I did find a "2" on three lines. I think that hand may have been positive, but I'm not sure? I played it and nothing good happened. Shocking!! :lol:

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Post by Webman »

FloridaPhil wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 3:53 am
Ask the expert if he wants you to continue on this quest. I feel confident he will say you are wasting your time.

The expert knows most players are not going to profit from video poker. He knows most casino games are losers. He also knows he is not going to turn everyone into an AP. He teaches players to be better at whatever games they have to play. For that I am grateful.
Phil... once again, there is no reason to bring "the expert" into this discussion in the Recreational Play forum. I believe you were asked previously not to do so.

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