Quad Harvesting

[FAA]

I have heretofore been too scared to stay post quad, so no observation was viable.

[FloridaPhil]

I've seen it happen.... and I've seen it not happen. That happens when things are random.

Everything works until it doesn't.

[rascal]

I have been told countless times by the experts that the more hands you play, the closer you come to the dull and boring average. But my own experience has been that those who play the most are the most likely to see those occasional hot runs. Back when I played a lot of hands, then I had a lot of amazing hot runs. Now that I only play a little bit and very infrequently, I almost never see a hot run. Although, of course, at the end of the day it's your total return that counts, regardless of how and when it occurred.

[billryan]

Would you agree that for every "hot" streak" , there will be a " cold streak"
Many people get on a roll and suddenly every hand that breaks even is part of the hot streak.
Then people start seeing patterns in these streaks and come up with convoluted schemes and strategy to take advantage of them.

[FloridaPhil]

Would you agree that for every "hot" streak" , there will be a " cold streak"
Many people get on a roll and suddenly every hand that breaks even is part of the hot streak.
Then people start seeing patterns in these streaks and come up with convoluted schemes and strategy to take advantage of them.

Video poker is a contest between willing participants. The players want to beat the casino. The casino wants them to believe they can. The harder the players try, the more the casino prospers.

There are some players who are intelligent enough to know they can't beat today's casinos. They know that as soon as a vulnerability is discovered, it's eliminated. They enjoy the casino as entertainment. They only play with money they can afford to lose. They play smart, manage their money well and take everything the casino is willing to give them. These players don't profit financially from the casino, they profit in other ways. The casino survives and the players continue to enjoy the experience.

If your purpose for going into a casino today is to pay your bills, you will be disappointed. If your purpose is to enjoy quality entertainment for as long and as cheaply as possible, you can get what you want.

[billryan]

Phil, For the thousandth time, just because you don't wish to take the time to learn how to leave a casino a winner, don't keep saying no one can do it. At least three regulars here are beating the casinos on a regular basis, using knowledge that isn't that hard to find. And guess what? Its fun. It's recreational.
I can't think of a better recreation activity than getting paid to mall walk casinos.
Stations just sent out their summer coupon book with hundreds of dollars in free play and matchplay.
Most of my neighbors got one and tossed it in the common area where people leave coupons and such.
I took a few but when they were still there, I grabbed them all. Can I possibly use all of them? no, but they are barter for trading a few for a tip on a new machine or a thank you for a past favor.

[FloridaPhil]

Beating the casino with coupons and free play is not paying bills. What I am talking about is living any kind of lifestyle off a casino. Gambling with money is serious business. I don't think it helps anyone to talk about making a serious profit from a casino. All it does is encourage the millions who can't to play above their bankrolls.

This post is about something that happens to me on a regular basis. It's not suppose to happen. Over the many years I have played video poker, I have seen many of these "not suppose to happen" things happen. When I see someone hit a bunch of quads and leave the machine, I move to that seat if I can. My confidence is high. It doesn't always work. When It does, it reinforces my confidence in doing this. Is this a real opportunity or is randomness playing tricks on me? I don't care. My investment is only a few twenties to find out.

The key to doing this my way is to play video poker with "throw away" money. If you don't have this kind of money, you shouldn't be in a casino. Here's a dealt royal I hit after moving to one of these "hot machines" that don't exist.

[olds442jetaway]

Everything happens. Then when it doesn’t I say why isn’t this working. I know the rules and the math. That doesn’t stop me from trying such methods myself. I know it is luck and all random, yet.........my best one ever was an empty machine on a crowded day. I was walking around looking for an open 9/6 machine at mohegan. A guy was just getting paid for a Royal on a fifty cent machine. He walked away and I sat down. He played one last hand, but didn’t finish it. He was past shouting distance where I could catch him. Since it was a junk deal, I just hit draw. Up popped a quad. I switched the game to quarters. Within five minutes, I got a Royal in Spades, the same suit as his Royal.

[FAA]

Love the quad off a junk deal. It's happening more and more. Must hit Bally's variable denomination machines next week and pursue a $2,000 RF.

[olds442jetaway]

I haven’t done the math, but on job I seem to hit a dealt quad about every 8 hours of play. A dealt quad on a redraw is still pretty rare since in the course of a session there aren’tthat many junk hands to begin with.