Denomination Despair

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FAA
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Denomination Despair

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Apologies to the flock for repeating myself. Don't take me to task. The first half of the year has been a mixed blessing. I finally hit a RF at Bally's.
But my risk appetite has sunk me. -$300 over two days in hand pay pursuit. This delusional state must end. My plan is now to continue my pursuit at Bally's. I'm never tempted to jack bets beyond the ten coin quarter max. This halves my losses while keeping the hand pay dream alive. Time to really get cozy at this dump and bypass the glitz of their abundant competition.

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Post by case »

You have said many times before that you are going to quit playing dollars......yet you continue to do so.

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Post by olds442jetaway »

Me too. I will try and stick with quarters tomorrow. What happens to me is I play that 800 for bet 1 machine at Mohegan. After awhile of not hitting anything I bet 2 lines then 3 then 4 then 5. Bankroll vanishes quicker than a magic trick by Penn and Teller.

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There is one possible solution, but you must be willing to stick with it. You must find a way to stay with five coin quarter play at least 90% of the time. The rest of your play will be at dollars. The game you play must have a decent jackpot other than a royal flush. I use Deuces Wild, but I can't see why it wouldn't work with DDB. Start out with 5 coin quarter play. The timing of when to make the switch to dollars is up to you. For years I switched when I had a run up. I now switch when I have had a long period of bad hands. It doesn't matter. The machine doesn't know what happened before, every hand is independent. If you hit something good at dollars, it's pure luck.

Professionals will say you can't win with luck. I'm not a professional and I don't expect to win long term. What I want is to play VP as long as I can with the money I have and have a chance at a decent jackpot. This method works for me.

Never play more than $30 in dollars at one time. If nothing happens, go back to quarter play and stay there until your trigger comes around again. If you hit a jackpot or a good run at dollars, keep the money by setting low cash out limits. I use $100 increments. I normally cash at least 1-2 of these tickets in a day. Two times so far this year I have hit a $1,000 quad deuce after switching the dollars. Last week I switched to dollars and the first hand I was dealt was 4 to a royal. Obviously I didn't hit the royal or you would have known about it.

This is not a play strategy. It is a betting scheme. The odds against beating the casino are enormous. This method does not change that fact. Done right, you will develop the discipline to stay with quarters. That is the key to reducing your losses. There is no magic or voodoo to making the switch. What you are doing is walking away with your dollar profits.

If you find a real positive game opportunity, do what the experts tell you to do. It won't last long, so enjoy it while you can.

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Five coin quarter play at least 90% of the time. The rest of your play will be at dollars. The game you play must have a decent jackpot other than a royal flush. I use Deuces Wild. Start out with 5 coin quarter play. The timing of when to make the switch to dollars is up to you. For years I switched when I had a run up, now when I have had a long period of bad hands. It doesn't matter.
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This sounds good. Of course you've offered it before and I've always been hesitant. Time to go all in on the five coin play. It must be DW, since a) I don't know DDB and b) Bally's JOB is on a ten coin max system. I'm as usual upset and angry at myself. I think all will be well when I finally accept myself as a quarter player. The break just never comes on dollars. No sense continuing as a casino masochist!
The machines themselves are denominationally cumbersome. At Harrah's and Caesars, you're locked into quarter or dollar, and I can't even find quarter at Harrah's. But at Bally's and Borgata, the .25/.50/1.00 machines are more the norm. So, only those are where I should patronize. In fact, let me write that down. I seem to think I'm due the minute I land in town.

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The determining factor is total coin-in, the money you wager times the number of hands you play. Given the game is negative as most are, the larger the coin-in the greater the cost to play. I realize you know this, some on this forum may not. Playing quarter VP all day is not that fulfilling for me. I can tolerate it if I can switch to dollars 10% of the time. This increases my cost to play, but not nearly as much as playing dollar VP all the time.

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Post by FAA »

Yes. The adrenaline of dollar is simply too intoxicating when that's the only available denomination on the damn machine. Those casinos damn sure know how to tie/force your hand. BUT, when given the three headed denomination machine, I do stick to quarter. That's where I'll remain. Ocean is giving me nice FP soon, so I'll dabble dollar and leave before too long.

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Post by stevel96a1 »

FAA everyone recommends to stick with one betting structure and IMO it is best to do so i recently found a new software called Boris video poker on android, Wolf video poker and Winpoker 6 seem to run on same algrothym RNG engine but Boris/IGT king/VP for winners seem to be the same RNG engine and what i mean by that is the draughts and showers of certain hand are more frequent last night i won back 1630 credits in an hour or two w/o 4 Deuces or Royal on Boris VP and dealt me this on 9/6 jacks https://imgur.com/a/T44wpu2 so hang in there and stick with 1 betting structure it may come back to you

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