Does the past matter?

[Eduardo]

An average describes the game. It applies to anyone who plays the game.

It's more useful for people who play a lot than people who play very little. But someone who plays very little can still get a better idea of what the expect by knowing the statistics of the game.

For instance, if it takes 60 hours to hit a royal, someone could say "Gee, I'm not likely to hit one in 6 hours. But I could."

Someone playing for 60 hours could say "Hey, there is a good chance I will hit one in 60 hours, but I might not."

If that difference matters to you as far as whether you play the game, then it matters to you. If it is meaningless to you, stop looking at averages and just play the friggin' game. Or don't.

[Jstark]

I've had 2 within 6 hands on single line in one day. I've also went weeks without one.

One thing is for certain, the games I play for profit are NOT dependant on royals or using club cards.

[stevel96a1]

"He might get 6 in that 60 hour time frame " isn't that going against the MATH of the game?
i mean even in baccarat what are the odds you finding shoe to shoe that spits out 20 banker run with a player to interrupt, im sure it does happen but you stumble up that shuffle back to back?

in video poker it has to be a good game from start to finish 9/6 classic example and im trying to figure out why wolf frugal video poker in 9/6 jacks why the game begins to break down after "250k hands"
he does show a marginal profit but a profit non the less BUT after that #hands it falls apart like an old building, and im thinking why not just pick another machine by hand #150k? im sure the software is not program with streaks and random events are just that but there is a pinnacle where the math inside game says no more of that and its time for this

im just confusing "Building EV" of the game with the -/+ of the game and throwing past events into it but that is not acceptable

[Jstark]

Whose to say you won't keep losing by changing machines?

[stevel96a1]

thats why it needs to be + game from the second you sit and moment you get up
but 9/6 has a - and yet people play and have winning years most gambling books would say you should be losing after a month of play at any table game at a casino club especially card counting blackjack losing 6-12months is not un-common my experience is played every game offered in casino baccarat, roulette, blackjack, slots, the only one that lets me out a winner per year is video poker, any table game eats my 250-500$ bankroll in an hour or a few of play

[Eduardo]

Advantage players won't consider 9/6 a positive game unless there are additional benefits from comps that make it a positive game.

"against the MATH of the game?"

No. Less likely according to the math of the game. Unlikely events happen all the time. Just less often than likely events.

[olds442jetaway]

Long-term results can be longer than one’s lifetime. I know someone who got four Royals in one day playing a single line game. I also know someone who plays six hours a day five days a week and has not hit a royal in six months In the last 10 years or so I have had three incidents of more than 600,000 hands in the last 10 years or so most of which was on a single line game and no royal flush was hit.

[stevel96a1]

Long-term results can be longer than one’s lifetime. I know someone who got four Royals in one day playing a single line game. I also know someone who plays six hours a day five days a week and has not hit a royal in six months In the last 10 years or so I have had three incidents of more than 600,000 hands in the last 10 years or so most of which was on a single line game and no royal flush was hit.

that says alot i believe it, reality is scary if your using a negative system

[Player422738]

Forget about 60 hours or 80 hours thing. Anyone who believes in the cycle is a complete idiot. (When we refer to cycle for statistical purpose, we normally mean the average cycle.)

In real world, there is no cycle. Period. Every hand is dealt with same exact probability and you have the chance to improve the hand to maximize the overall return given the hand you are dealt with. When you hit the draw button and complete the game, the result is the past.

For the next hand, you will be dealt again from 1 of the 2598960 combinations.

The past doesn’t matter. Only human thinks the past matters because we have memory in our brains and our brains tend to create a “pattern”. However your video poker machine doesn’t give a **** to what you think.

Just remember. It doesn’t matter how long or how many hands you have played, the odds don’t change for your next hand.

No more discussion is needed. Webman, you can close this thread now.

[Player422738]

Long-term results can be longer than one’s lifetime. I know someone who got four Royals in one day playing a single line game. I also know someone who plays six hours a day five days a week and has not hit a royal in six months In the last 10 years or so I have had three incidents of more than 600,000 hands in the last 10 years or so most of which was on a single line game and no royal flush was hit.

This can happen because hitting royal is a very rare event. We all can hit full house which happens about every 100 hand easily after playing for a while because it happens a lot more frequent.

Frequency is the only difference.