Coin Incrementing Strategies

[FloridaPhil]

I believe the underlying issue here is in the minds of the player. I think Bill believes any VP methodology that is not directly aimed at producing a profit is worthless. I believe any methodology that produces more entertainment for the money is worthwhile.

Olds and I enjoy hitting substantial jackpots. We don't want to spend our time in a casino thinking a $250 quad deuce or a 2-3 times a year $1,000 royal is the best thing that can happen. We know today's games are going to cost us money to play. We know the bigger we play the more we lose. What bet incrementing strategies do is give us a "chance" at a dollar or bigger jackpot without the long term cost. In other words, we are buying our W2-Gs at a discount.

Both Olds and I could sit in front of a video poker machine and play single coin quarters. We could do this until we both drop dead at the machine. The cost would be so minimal it wouldn't be a rounding error on our bank statements. Where is the fun in that?

Much of the entertainment value in video poker is in the anticipation. The bigger the anticipation, the more fun I have. If I played $5 a coin, I would have lots of anticipation. This would quickly turn into sheer terror. Bet incrementing strategies deliver more fun with less terror. It's not that complicated.

[Carcounter]

I'm a recreational player who plays to win. I suspect there are others like me. This means only playing 99.54% and better games, particularly during promotions.

[FloridaPhil]

I'm a recreational player who plays to win. I suspect there are others like me. This means only playing 99.54% and better games, particularly during promotions.

I am happy for you. Play them while you can. If I could play 99.54% quarter games I would. This forum should acknowledge that there are many players who do not have good games available in a denomination they can comfortably afford to play. Casinos across the country are consistently downgrading their odds and comps. We see it in our travels. Right now the best quarter to dollar single line Deuces Wild game at my local casino is 97%. I can stay home or I can play those games. I choose to play, but I play small enough so the entertainment value I receive is worth the cost.

Does anyone ever wonder why casinos offer increased odds and comps for playing at higher denominations? Doesn't this seem strange? If the games are in fact beatable, wouldn't the opposite be true? Are casinos worried that an Advantage Player will show up and kill their bottom line? If that did happen, would the casino sit by without doing something about it? I find this puzzling.

[billryan]

Didn't webman just tell us not to keep repeating the same things over and over. You've posted these same questions dozens of times and received the correct answers. Unfortunately, they weren't the answers you wanted so you keep asking them? To what purpose?

[FloridaPhil]

Didn't webman just tell us not to keep repeating the same things over and over. You've posted these same questions dozens of times and received the correct answers. Unfortunately, they weren't the answers you wanted so you keep asking them? To what purpose?

Seems like a reasonable question to me? I will rephrase the question.

If I play quarters at my casino, I must play 97% games. My long term losses will be about $15 an hour. If I play $25 a hand, I can play 98.9% games. My long term losses will be well over $100 an hour.

Suppose the casino offers comps and incentives that turn the $5 game positive. An Advantage Player shows up every day and hits them for $100K a year so he can live a nice lifestyle off their games. Do you believe the casino will let that continue?

These are questions that many players are asking. We see our odds and comps dropping while others don't seem to have a problem paying their bills out of the ticket redemption machine. How is this possible?

[billryan]

Asked and answered a couple of hundred times by now. If your short term memory doesn't recognize you are repeating yourself might I suggest you simply review the last few hundred threads you've started.

If many people have these questions, why not let them ask.