Progressions is better than flat bettting?

[stevel96a1]

i have been playing around with his method and it does indeed give more bang for the buck.
it also takes away gambling time (i imagine if one hits a losing streak which doesn't happen for about 25%of th the time) so far i like it https://imgur.com/a/46nmBhJ normally i should be down over 200$ for every 2500 hands played on a 9/6 game suppose to lose a cool 400 but i'll play on til i lose/win 5 royals

[stevel96a1]

In order to decide if it is "better" you need to say what your goals are.

If your goal is to win more money in the long run, it will probably will not be better.

If your goal is to come out ahead on more sessions of a certain number of hands played, it may be better.

If your goal is to win a big jackpot of a certain amount, it probably will not be better.

If your goal is to come out ahead on any given day, it may or may not be better depending on your bankroll and parameters for when you will decide to quit.

i have too many goals

[Jstark]

5609 hands is nothing. Let's see where you're at after 56,090,000 hands.

[FAA]

I’ll even settle for seeing 90,000.

[stevel96a1]

i can't tamper with the app and its not a junky app for video poker 1 review 1 guy played over 1/2 mil hands
his app is the best one out there. I have hit 15 Royal Flushes! I checked my stats and had to correct the record. Hands played = 591517 Money played =1587844 Money won = 1479238 Win / Loss = 108606 DBL PLAYED = 0 DBL WIN = 000 PAIR/BETTER = 118477 TWO PAIR = 68658 THREE/Kind = 43235 THREE ACES = 6738 STRAIGHT = 7095 FLUSH = 7155 FULL HOUSE = 6170 Four of a Kind = 1108 Four 2s,3s,4s = 100 Four Js,Qs,Ks = 8 Four Aces = 57 Four 2s,3s,4s/Ace,2,3,4 =16 Four Deuces = 8 Four Deuces with Ace = 8 Four Aces w/any 2,3,4 = 59 Straight Flush = 62 Five of a Kind (Wild) = 1 Five 3s, 4s, 5s = 0 Five Aces = 0 Royal Flush (Wild) = 0 Royal Flush = 15 "I always play for the Royal/Straight Flush" **With max bet**

not sure what game he played but i hope i can beat his record

[rascal]

The way published progressives work is a complicated formula, but it goes something like this:
Play 5 hands at 25c, lose all 5;
Move up to 5 hands at 50c, lose all 5;
Move up to 5 hands at $1, lose all 5;
Pause and sell 45 books on progressives at $9.95 each;
At the end of the day you're ahead $404.00
It's an amazing system and I say, Go for it!

[New2vp]

The way published progressives work is a complicated formula, but it goes something like this:
Play 5 hands at 25c, lose all 5;
Move up to 5 hands at 50c, lose all 5;
Move up to 5 hands at $1, lose all 5;
Pause and sell 45 books on progressives at $9.95 each;
At the end of the day you're ahead $404.00
It's an amazing system and I say, Go for it!

Quite creative!

[stevel96a1]

are you saying Philip Koetsch computer analysis is incorrect? that a buy in of 100 units can and will capture 375 units OPPOSE to flat betting that would capture a third of that? is he wrong? is the computer wrong? is the person who programed the software has glitches/bugs in it? i do believe flat betting is the worst way to achieve profits, i think his work is spot on

[billryan]

I think we can all agree that there are a number of highly educated, well financed teams out there.
I also think the fact that these knowledgeable, well financed teams ignore these things shows just how valuable they are.
Video poker, especially in Atlantic City, can't be beaten by altering your bet, unless you lower your bet to zero and never increase it.

[New2vp]

Steve, certainly you are welcome to believe anything you want. I'm certain that Mr. Koetsch knows how to program simple simulations. However, his interpretation or your understanding of those simulations may be in question. I do have to congratulate Mr. Koetsch on getting you to buy his book.

By suggesting only that there is something magical about a betting progression that will allow a maximum gain of 375 units from a buy-in of 100 units, one of those interpretations/understandings may need some work.

The 375 max win vs. a max win of 100 coins comes from the fact that the average coins bet per play with what Mr. Koetsch calls "geometric x3" is 3.75 vs. an average coin bet per play of only 1.00 with flat betting. The max win reported comes about because there are 100 plays, NOT because of a buy-in of 100 coins. With geometric x3 (or bets increasing from 1 to 2 on the first win, then 2 to 4, on the 2nd win, then from 4 to 8 on the 3rd win, then back to 1 on the 4th bet, regardless of whether or not you win, then continuing), your bets could be 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 + 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 + ... + 1 + 2 + 4 +8 = 375. If you win each bet on this wager that pays even money for a win, that equates to the max possible win of 375.

Of course, the 3.75 average bet can only occur if you have 3 wins in a row 25 consecutive times. The odds of that occurring are quite small on a nearly even odds bet. And to win 375 coins, there have to be 100 consecutive wins. Of course a statistic that tells you what happens in an event that occurs only once in more than 633,825,300,114,115,000,000,000,000,000 trials is not likely to be very helpful to anyone's understanding of likely outcomes.

Is it a big surprise that you can win more coins if your average bet size is more? Maybe to some. Best of luck in your application of the new knowledge that you derived from Mr. Koetsch's book. I hope this investment will be profitable for you.