Playing my way out of a nasty losing streak

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DougJ
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Re: Playing my way out of a nasty losing streak

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wildman49 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:06 am
stevel96a1 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:11 am

when you said "These new machines don't play like the old ones. They go into a dude cycle about every ten minutes."


could you explain a little more? ive noticed that too not only in real casinos but also kitchen table software video poker, i do feel like the older model vp machines RNG engines play fair oppose to these new VP machines..
Steve, I talked to many regular players on these machines. They are the same players that played the old ones the casino removed. They all see the same dead cycles as I see. You go 10 to 15 hands before a winning hand appears. Then things seem normal for 10 minutes give or take and it happens again. The old machines I very rarely go 5 to 6 hands without a winning hand.
. . . .
but there is a noticeable difference of play from old to new.
Then, THIS.

So, what are you suggesting here?

Hmmm. In a thread about Server based games in February of 2018, I noted String Manipulation exists in relation to the RNG. Of course, all the VP AP's here had no clue nor understanding of this. That's okay with me. But, how interesting that now we have this thread where the poster talks about "reprogramming" of machines. HUH? If the VP "experts" want to believe that the RNG is sacred, then no reason to wonder if there is a difference in play between the old and the "new" machines.
;) ;)

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tech58 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:22 am
. . . . But if the RNG is working as intended by law there should be no difference.
If someone were to say we are imagining something on an insufficient number of trials, it would be hard to disagree.
But an abrupt change in the flow of the game,noticed by a number of players, after up-dates, seems to smell a bit fishy.
FInally, THIS.

Hmmm again. Could it be that the RNG "IS" in fact operating legally within the casino's pre-selected string manipulation program?

I'm okay with whatever everyone else chooses to believe. ;)

As Ben Roethlisberger might say, "WHATEVER."

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Why do I feel like I'm listening to third graders discussing nuclear physics?

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billryan wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:03 am
Why do I feel like I'm listening to third graders discussing nuclear physics?
Because your incapable of really listening to anything!!
Your too busy dredging up sarcastic,distracting comments!!
Back under your rock!!

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tech58 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:52 am
billryan wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:03 am
Why do I feel like I'm listening to third graders discussing nuclear physics?
Because your incapable of really listening to anything!!
Your too busy dredging up sarcastic,distracting comments!!
Back under your rock!!
+1. :up: :up:

tech58: we've all learned not to feed that troll under the bridge.

Meanwhile . . . it is a fact that casinos can choose whatever progam they want for any machine. This is not just applicable to slot machines. In the case of VP, casinos can set paytables and select a specific program with select parameter---strings-- within which the RNG operates.

Some folks living under the bridge don't have a math background, as witnessed by the fact that Las Vegas ate him up and then spit him out into AZ. Bye Bye honey.

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I love all of these conspiracy theories on the various gambling forums.

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Post by Lucky Larry »

tech58 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:17 am
Widman i noticed several of the bar machines i play have been reprogrammed in the last few months,and again something feels different.
Pay tables are the same but maybe they have been updated to the 2016 change in Nevada law for continuous shuffling.
Whatever, they just seem streakier as you have observed.
tech58,
Please link or clarify this mention of the 2016 Shuffle Law. I've googled the phrase but it seems the legal reference go back to table game shuffling.

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billryan wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:03 am
Why do I feel like I'm listening to third graders discussing nuclear physics?
They are at most second graders.

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Post by tech58 »

hophoofer wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:00 pm
billryan wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:03 am
Why do I feel like I'm listening to third graders discussing nuclear physics?
They are at most second graders.
Two peabrains in-a-pod!!
Maybe i should take the advice about feeding the trolls,but their consistent drivel comebacks are so hilarious does anyone else enjoy their paucity of mental aptitude? :D :D

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Lucky Larry wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:30 pm
tech58 wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:17 am
Widman i noticed several of the bar machines i play have been reprogrammed in the last few months,and again something feels different.
Pay tables are the same but maybe they have been updated to the 2016 change in Nevada law for continuous shuffling.
Whatever, they just seem streakier as you have observed.
tech58,
Please link or clarify this mention of the 2016 Shuffle Law. I've googled the phrase but it seems the legal reference go back to table game shuffling.
LL this subject was discussed in another thread in some detail.
I found it in REC PLAY. RNG question dated FRiday Apr. 19.
If you have further points on this i would like to hear.
Nobody added much on how the RNG is verified as truly random. Does the seemingly streakiness of newer programmed machines come into play here?
Hope to hear from you,you usually have been paying attention. ;)

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