strategy to play on negative video poker & win a little

[susuvp]

I am newbie to video poker. I am practicing on wizardofodds.com and this website and play a little only on 1 cent or 2 cents or 5 cents the most on single play 99.54%, 10 play, 100 play JOB , ( 10 play are 8 5 pay schedule 100 play are 7 5 pay schedule, as I still have not find any casino with higher 100 play JOB pay schedule yet on those denomination. I am sure i will find out more later down the road. )

I have been reading the messages that are related to my play and my interests especially on JOB game, I don't want to play DB, DDB, TB yet because of high variance and I don't have enough time to practice other games. I am starting to practicing on Deuce wild. I try to read most of the related messages but i don't know if i miss anything. I am going to give "FloridaPhil" strategy a try. Because Bob Dancer strategy cannot be apply to where i live. I live closer to a Indian casino which has no games including the house promotion that are over 100% even including the 7 times points once a week. The only time i play is 7 times points once a week or they have lucky draw. I never win any lucky draw even the lucky draw is only $100 to $200. I guess i have not played enough money. Of course i don't win the car.

My play is i bring $300 to the casino, if i hit anything more than $150 i leave immediately, and if i leave it all, i leave. I do have some beginner luck, that i win 6 times out of 10, but the 4 times lost bring my total down to negative $150 over all which is not bad as i am getting to have a real feeling how to play real money in a real noisy, smoking, try to catch the drink lady, loud machine noise, much disturbance enviroment,... Compare with playing at home without any outside enviroment like people banging on the push button, smoking, husband and wife talk loud, yelling, ......

I have a question for "FloriadaPhil" and his way of playing are very interesting to me and his way of play make a lot of sense. I cannot find his website "cheapvideopoker dot com" still working now. I do aware it has been a few years ago that he make the website site. If "FloridaPhil" does not mind, i would like to read his latest strategy in my

[Eduardo]

Phil isn't around now. I think he closed that website because he found out the strategy ended up being a failure.

His strategy DID NOT WORK. He said so himself, so keep reading before you try such a thing.

It turns out, the people he was so critical of were right. They told him you can't beat a negative machine and to not play, or to just bet smaller if he wanted to lose less, and he simplified his strategy to betting smaller. Then he continued to criticize the people who helped him. Oh well.

It sounds like you are trying to come up with a plan to beat negative games. That isn't going to happen and Phil would tell you the same thing.

Good luck.

[stevel96a1]

i too tried Phil's strategy and couldn't get it off the ground, id cry mentally if i hit a royal or 4 ducks, for exchange longer play time was a bad deal imo. i tried martin galing each pay schedule 1,2,3 and try to close a winner and try to close a winner on 5th coin in but by that time it was too late im already down too much and hiting anything on the 5th coin pay line would yield a break even game at best, the best attack for video poker deuces wild is to bring a 250$ bankroll and aim for the 4 ducks most the time you will get it and show profit(25$ to 250$) but not always and when you blow through that 250$ go home if you are really brave bring 500$ for quarters, there have been many times i needed a 2nd bankroll of 250$ to win back my losses and the 4 ducks kept rolling in like clock work

hopefully the casino comps you good if you shall lose

[Eduardo]

Steve, 4 Deuces on a $250 bankroll or even $500 is far from a sure thing.

Your 4 deuces coming "like clockwork" sounds pretty lucky. I'd prepare for some longer runs in the future without one.

[susuvp]

Thanks for all reply.

I don't think native american Casino will comps much. Their pay schedule is the worst amongest all Casinos.

I will keep reading all messages until i finish them all.

Good luck to all!

[Eduardo]

I will keep reading all messages until i finish them all.

That sounds like my worst nightmare.

Let me save you some time...

"You won't be able to turn a negative machine positive. Betting schemes DO NOT WORK. If you enjoy playing for fun and your goal is to play less expensively, make smaller bets. If you have other goals, do whatever you want. But don't expect to come out a long term winner on negative machines."

That just saved you reading about 5,000 posts.

[OTABILL]

It's a shame FP cannot respond to your question. Hopefully he will be able to when he is in a position to post again. As you noted his strategy/views have evolved over the years. You appear to be a recreational player who plays VP primarily for entertainment purposes with the goal of maximizing playing time while minimizing the amount of money spent. I'm sure FP could provide pointers based on his experience. Before the AP contingent has a hissy fit, playing VP games with a negative expected return will invariably cost you money over time (as will engaging in virtually every other recreational activity). Comps at the casino you are describing will not offset the monetary cost. Only you can decide whether the entertainment is worth the cost.

[stevel96a1]

Thanks for all reply.

I don't think native american Casino will comps much. Their pay schedule is the worst amongest all Casinos.

I will keep reading all messages until i finish them all.

Good luck to all!

They sure on. Getting 1 card held and delts 4 ducks im loving the old machines. I trash a straight flush that was 3 ducks and i got the 4th i think 500$br would be more of a 50/50 if i had to guess

[susuvp]

I aware that we will never get rich on Video Poker from Casino. Even payout is full pay deuce wild 100.72% or full pay JOB 100% still there are still chance you play for 2 - 3 hrs section, you still loose $100 - $150 section. I try already to play cheapest denonmination to get a feeling of how the game are played. It is fun to play video poker and it is more fun you win a little bit, like $50 a 3 hour section. I am learning so I open to any ways. When i was in casino, i see some people just hop onto machine right next to me and play a few hands, 99% of the time, they loose, they left. One time i see a woman win 4 of a kind in her 5th hand, and she left too. I wonder how can she be so lucky while i am sitting at the 100% full pay JOB grinding my luck for $50 win for 3 hours. I don't know what strategy she is playing, but she definitely keep switching to different games, or different betting amount, ..., and play a little bit. I have no experience to understand and see through what she is doing.

I am learning and i have limitation, my budget, my hope, .....in this learning process of learning, why not keep looking for different strategy so that i can have a little more extra fun ( win a little bit if all possible ) besides fun playing video poker.

I will keep reading some forum message, continue practicing, playing, ...

Good Luck to you all.

[tech58]

sus You are searching for knowledge and answers to questions instead of just banging buttons!
This is good! There are those of us here who have made all the mistakes that you can learn from
There will also be new mistakes we have not invented yet. Stay tuned!