Losing trips and Discipline

[FloridaPhil]

Playing single coin accurately requires just as much concentration as playing max coins, more if you are going to switch denomination mid play. I watch max coin players all day that don't know how to play. Many of them are playing big denominations. Their net return is much less than someone who plays single coin accurately. Video poker is not always about how much you win, it's more about how much you lose between wins.

[Waiting4RF]

I watch max coin players all day that don't know how to play. Many of them are playing big denominations. Their net return is much less than someone who plays single coin accurately.

And, their net return is much less than someone who plays max coin accurately.

[FloridaPhil]

And, their net return is much less than someone who plays max coin accurately.

That is true because you receive the royal bonus when playing max coins. However, you will often lose less money playing negative games with single coin because you run less money through the machine. A video poker game can be negative due to the pay schedule or due to player error.

In a fantasy world, all the games are positive, the comps are generous and no one ever makes an error or runs out of money. I don't know anyone who plays in that world.

[advantage playe]

how about, mind your own business !

[advantage playe]

not aimed at u fl phil. but all of us !

[onemoretry]

Playing single coin accurately requires just as much concentration as playing max coins, more if you are going to switch denomination mid play.

I certainly agree that playing single coin accurately takes as much concentration as max. I don't understand why switching denomination would make a difference.

I know people who wear headphones and listen to soothing music while they play to eliminate the possibility of being distracted or annoyed by others around them. Perhaps that would work for FAA?

[tech58]

I know that this thread started out to discuss monetary discipline, and some very interesting points of view, most of which i have suffered thru.
However i am mystified by all the comments about what other players around you do or don't do.

Screamers,smokers,button slammers,loud talking attention seekers,boorish people with mythical beliefs,and other potential distractions are facts of life in a casino!!

Some relief from smokers can be found by selecting machines with the right ventilation pattern, if you can find them, i have six machines that are reasonable.

But allowing audible distractions to bother you is not a problem that resides in the SENDER of the noise but rather in the RECEIVER!!
The solution? TUNE THEM OUT!! If you have your antenna out for every crumb of audible graffiti,then they OWN YOU!!
The noise is not going away. Personal discipline is my solution. Ear plugs or headphones are also available.

[FloridaPhil]

I certainly agree that playing single coin accurately takes as much concentration as max. I don't understand why switching denomination would make a difference.

Switching denomination can have two meanings; changing the number of coins wagered per bet or changing the denomination of the game.

Strategy changes when you move between playing single coin and max coins. This is due to a royal being worth 250 coins instead of 4,000. If you play single coin VP using max coin strategy, you make matters worse.

It is common to find better pay schedules as you increase denomination. For example, a quarter game may be 97%. The same machine may have the same game in dollars at 99%. When the pay schedule changes, so does the strategy.

It's easy to think that anyone who plays single coin VP is unintelligent. This would have been true 20 years ago. The majority of today's video poker games are negative. Comps have been reduced to a point where a positive game that lasts longer than a few hands is a rare find. The vast majority of today's video poker is less about "harvesting" positive games and more about limiting losses.

[Tedlark]

And, their net return is much less than someone who plays max coin accurately.

That is true because you receive the royal bonus when playing max coins.

Depending on the game being played there are other winning opportunities for a player other than just hitting a royal flush.

[Tedlark]

I certainly agree that playing single coin accurately takes as much concentration as max. I don't understand why switching denomination would make a difference.

Switching denomination can have two meanings; changing the number of coins wagered per bet or changing the denomination of the game.

There is a third meaning Phil omitted: larger or smaller jackpots.