Casino Survival

[notes1]

-the chinese send the virus around the world
-trump signs directive stopping planes coming from china to usa
-cuomo signs directive ordering sick covid patients to be housed with healthy ones

trump's directive saves the lives of thousands, cuomo's directive, kills thousands

100% false totally illogical arguments and points

i replied to the above statement, on the other thread, as requested by webman

[onemoretry]

.. you are Anti-science, you don't believe in global warming (which might have helped contribute to Covid19's rise)

Wow! You've not only managed to insert the ubiquitous climate change issue into the discussion, you've attempted to implicate it as a factor in the spread of the virus.

[Antebellum Reb]

.. you are Anti-science, you don't believe in global warming (which might have helped contribute to Covid19's rise)

Wow! You've not only managed to insert the ubiquitous climate change issue into the discussion, you've attempted to implicate it as a factor in the spread of the virus.

"Ubiquitous"? Yeah well the air we breathe, the earth itself, the atmosphere, the ozone layer, the 71 % of the planet that is itself water....these all fit the definition of things that are ubiquitous. But the argument, or issue of climate change brought on by humans' self destructive behavior hasn't exactly been a leading story in recent months nor mentioned on this forum in a post at least for a while, at least as far as I can read. Another thing that's ubiquitous now, sadly, are plastics in the ocean and in landfills and many other places (plastics are courtesy of the same greedy selfish people who make the fossil fuels. ) it's an undeniable self evident fact that certain activities of humanity are not good for the earth and will eventually cause catastrophic and irreversible damage to the earth, if not already. Heating up the earth causes many problems, including melting of thousands of years of glacier ice and permafrost. Inside much of this are microbes that haven't been circulating for many many thousands of years. you don't need to be Jonas Salk to see the risk hsre....Hence I said it "Might" contribute to viruses like covid19, which rather suddenly was upon us....it is my educated informed opinion.

What's most telling of all, Mr. Onemoretree is you have or had nothing to say at all, nada especially on the topic I originally wanted to discuss and wanted people even like you to post (i.e. Casinos and their survival, and how they're going to tough it out). But all it took was a half a sentence from me making a off the cuff reference to climate changes.


And to notes1 if you're out there still, you already derailed and blew up this thread, so running and hiding now in a different thread in the name of forum decorum and proper posting is kinda disingenuous.

[FAA]

These ongoing derailments are so frustrating. We’re trying to put our heads together and brainstorm on one thing. Then some detritus mushrooms and thread becomes another casualty.

[Antebellum Reb]

Well Mr faa are you of the opinion that there will be major casualties among the larger casino hotels, or a flurry of mergers?
You play in the East coast casinos right, not vegas???

[OTABILL]

Since science has been I will comment on the original question by quoting Charles Darwin, "“It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one more responsive to change.” Which casinos adapt best to the new dynamics will survive, others will falter.

[Antebellum Reb]

Since science has been I will comment on the original question by quoting Charles Darwin, "“It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one more responsive to change.” Which casinos adapt best to the new dynamics will survive, others will falter.

I agree on the general principle you quoted, what I'm unsure of is how it actually will play out and be applied within the casino industry. we all agree that things have changed and been altered due to covid19 and society 's reaction to it, so now the casinos and every other industry must discern how they in turn will react to the reactions, and so on...

the first and foremost thing that's changed for casinos is the pie (or market/demand) has definitely shrunk. fewer people will gamble, fewer people will want to gamble, fewer people will be able to afford to gamble (or will reduce their financial means devoted to gambling), all as a result of covid19 and its many impacts on society and the economy. A secondary thing that flows from the first is the demographic change, namely covid19s outsized impact on seniors and on the lower income people. it's well known that senior citizens are a big casino customer segment, as are people of lower income (this might be hard for some to follow or accept but it's true nonetheless; casinos attract people of low-middle income and below mainly because gambling offers both an escape from their troubles mentally as well as financially). and both seniors and poor people are more vulnerable to covid19's really bad effects, for obvious reasons. these are but a few points in a large group of points on how casinos will be impacted, and who will be impacted and who will do the impacting.

how will the casinos react? One thing i see is a possible huge shift or increase in the online internet operations of casinos. the stage is set for a major overhaul and transformation to bring the in-house casino experience right "into" our houses! what this will entail is up to your imagination i guess...

[onemoretry]

What's most telling of all, Mr. Onemoretree is you have or had nothing to say at all, nada especially on the topic I originally wanted to discuss and wanted people even like you to post (i.e. Casinos and their survival, and how they're going to tough it out). But all it took was a half a sentence from me making a off the cuff reference to climate changes.

Not having been in a casino in almost six months, and not having what I thought to be any significant thoughts on the original topic, I was content to sit on the sidelines and follow the banter. However, your uncalled for elitist comment about climate change prompted me to dive in. The "we know better and if you don't agree with us you're a non-scientific idiot" attitude irks me.

After your making comments referring to the most pathetic and tragic display of U.S. government incompetence, and vilification of proper management of the pandemic by liberals burning inside certain people, it's ironic to me that you assign the blame for derailing the thread on notes1. Did you really think your comments wouldn't generate a reaction?

[Antebellum Reb]

What's most telling of all, Mr. Onemoretree is you have or had nothing to say at all, nada especially on the topic I originally wanted to discuss and wanted people even like you to post (i.e. Casinos and their survival, and how they're going to tough it out). But all it took was a half a sentence from me making a off the cuff reference to climate changes.

Not having been in a casino in almost six months, and not having what I thought to be any significant thoughts on the original topic, I was content to sit on the sidelines and follow the banter. However, your uncalled for elitist comment about climate change prompted me to dive in. The "we know better and if you don't agree with us you're a non-scientific idiot" attitude irks me.

After your making comments referring to the most pathetic and tragic display of U.S. government incompetence, and vilification of proper management of the pandemic by liberals burning inside certain people, it's ironic to me that you assign the blame for derailing the thread on notes1. Did you really think your comments wouldn't generate a reaction?

from you, absolutely I did not think there'd be a reaction, because until you posted your own "elitist" remark I didn't even know you were here, let alone reading....why would I? who the heck are you?

you do realize all the things you accuse me of applie to you too right? you and your disdain for science is its own type of elitism, you obviously know more than scientists.

but go ahead, convince me that global warming is a farce, a hoax, and that the theory of thousands of years accumulation of melting ice & permafrost releasing dormant microbes is totally invalid and poses no risk. I'm ready to learn......


but your comment about "we know better than you etc etc" is totally wrong, never meant that, never said it....you just imagined it out of your own insecurity or issues or whatever.....you dont know me anymore than I know you.

[onemoretry]

...you do realize all the things you accuse me of applie to you too right? you and your disdain for science is its own type of elitism, you obviously know more than scientists.

I am not sure I understand why you have concluded (incorrectly, I might add), that I have a disdain for science.