video poker flat betting

[mansi1989]

Does anyone have any idea or know how much someone has been up and down most by simply flat betting without increasing bet sizes in video poker.

im up few hundreds, but would like to know the highest varience and loosing drawdown that can happen in online video poker

[mansi1989]

do 58 peoples who has viewed it has really no clue about loosing setback by flat betting or heard something from somewhere ? especially as profit has not come from big payouts.

[Eduardo]

I think people are just confused by the relevance of the question.

What is the most someone has been down while "flat betting?" Losing everything.

What is the most someone has been up? I don't know... over a million dollars?

The variance will depend a lot more on what game(s) you are playing and the pay tables than the fact that you are "flat betting." So for the end result you are looking for, I think the question is the wrong one to be asking.

More important would be, which games and pay tables are you playing, and what is your bet amount? Are you well versed on proper strategy? Knowing these would help people to offer some insights.

[mansi1989]

well i meant units obviously, i should had mentioned it. Unit is the size you bet. If simply keeping it same. It doesnt matter really is it 0,2 cents or 5. Im suprised it has won so much. It almost never happens. Thats why i made the post is this some illusion and huge losses may happen even like this without increasing bet sizes.

I have read people mention this indeed about what games. Its the part that confuses me. They all are near/over 99 % what are available. So im not sure why people make big deal out of it. It doesnt seem to me make any significant difference.
Online the highest that is available for me are obvious jack better. There are no choice really which ones to play

[Eduardo]

If you are betting at most 5 cents per deal on a 99% game, and it is single line, then you won't get up by much probably among all the swings. A royal flush would pay $200, so say a very very lucky person might get up $500-$1000 at some point?

You are talking about a game with a 99% return so unless there are other benefits/rewards it will not have a positive return in the long run.

People ask about the game because it does matter a great deal, especially when asking about variance. The variance on Jacks or Better will be a lot different than Double Double Bonus or Triple Double Bonus. In these games you will lose credits a lot more quickly until you hit a bigger win since there are more possible larger payouts than in Jacks or better, which only has the Royal Flush paying above 250.

I'm not sure what your goals are, but if you are up a few hundred bucks in this scenario, the best advice is probably to cash out.

[mansi1989]

yes im aware of the double bonus games. Unfortunally online the sites dont offer these games. I have to settle what i can use.
im up few hundred units. The wins are mostly coming with 2 pair or flush at most. I calculated if professional players with maximum progressions have lost their bankroll which is recommended 3 times of royal flush then its equal to 100 units by flat betting.
Im not sure did i count correct way, but i guess time will tell do i win enough. You said its not possible to win long term. What are the payouts then at 101 % rtp video poker and are their only available in real casino vegas. I didnt find any differences about why 101 % can be long term winner and 99.56 % return are not

[Eduardo]

It sounds like you need a better understanding of what RTP means.

If I were to give you 99 pennies every time you handed me a dollar, what would happen if we continued this one million times?

If I were to give you 101 pennies every time you handed me a dollar, what would happen if we continued this one million times?

That is of course a simplification.

In video poker, having "an edge" at 101% would also mean playing the game perfectly. In addition to this, it would depend on the games being fair. I'm not sure whether these statements apply to your situation or not.

[olds442jetaway]

The casino will always win in the long run on any game under 100 percent. That said, I have always maintained that long term could be longer than one’s lifetime. There are players, but very very few who stay ahead of the game year after year. Several things can get you closer to or even over a 100 percent return Free Play is one. Free play awards based on your play etc For instance, a week or so ago I was playing 99.54 JOB. I played a total of about 10 hours, but those hours covered two gaming days. I was able to earn based on play 100 bucks in each of the gaming days free play. They also gave me regular 20 buck free play in each gaming day. I don’t count things like free rooms, food, shows, gifts etc since I can’t spend these. If they let me cash in points earned for cash I would count that in determining if I had an advantage. Of course your play has to be perfect too which is nearly impossible due to dumb errors, sticky buttons, other mistakes etc. there is no difference long term what the end result will be if you flat bet or use some crazy system like I made up all things being equal like total coin in and of course the paytable.

[onemoretry]

I was able to earn based on play 100 bucks in each of the gaming days free play.
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Since you "earned" it, how can you say it's "free" play?

[mansi1989]

The casino will always win in the long run on any game under 100 percent. That said, I have always maintained that long term could be longer than one’s lifetime. There are players, but very very few who stay ahead of the game year after year. Several things can get you closer to or even over a 100 percent return Free Play is one. Free play awards based on your play etc For instance, a week or so ago I was playing 99.54 JOB. I played a total of about 10 hours, but those hours covered two gaming days. I was able to earn based on play 100 bucks in each of the gaming days free play. They also gave me regular 20 buck free play in each gaming day. I don’t count things like free rooms, food, shows, gifts etc since I can’t spend these. If they let me cash in points earned for cash I would count that in determining if I had an advantage. Of course your play has to be perfect too which is nearly impossible due to dumb errors, sticky buttons, other mistakes etc. there is no difference long term what the end result will be if you flat bet or use some crazy system like I made up all things being equal like total coin in and of course the paytable.

thanks for sharing, but drawdown is still important factor as it helps to understand the bankroll. it is recommended to 3-5 times royal flush amount, but have you experienced even larger then that. it equals only 200 units by flat betting.