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olds442jetaway
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Re: video poker flat betting

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The term itself doesn’t bother me since I know what it means. I guess what bothers me more is how short sided the casino is. If anything, they should award me more or at least the same for more coin in. If more coin in doesn’t mean more money in their pocket, then they should get out of the casino business. There is no way I will achieve that 101 percent between mistakes, fatigue, playing sometimes on a hunch ( rarely though) and playing inferior games I like as long as I am there. All they have to do is look back since they opened over 25 years ago to see that I have added to their coffers 10k-80k a year without exception. They should be drooling to keep me there playing as often and long as possible. But I know they wont. I guess that is why most of my posts are in the Rec forum. I will give the line employees though 4-5 stars right from the cleaning staff to many of the casino hosts and everyone in between.

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olds442jetaway wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:54 am
You can only get that award once in a gaming day. However, if you are still there for the second gaming day on triple status point days, you can get a second one. When it is a normal day, it is about 18,000 in coin in to get one 100 buck award. Everyone’s number of status points you need to hit is different too. They are sneaky too. When they see and they will that I got 2 awards last week, they will no doubt jack up my required status points which means even more coin in. When they do that, I punish them by playing on the small side until they lower my number agsin.
If they gave it for every 6,000 unlimited I would be on a plane to Connecticut hitting up that 9/6 JOB lol.

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olds442jetaway wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:52 pm
If anything, they should award me more or at least the same for more coin in. If more coin in doesn’t mean more money in their pocket, then they should get out of the casino business.
In my region, it's very common to offer promos or other incentives that are capped at a particular level of earn. The idea is if they can entice traffic through the door, customers will play far in excess (without further reward) because they're either undisciplined or don't care.
There is no way I will achieve that 101 percent between mistakes, fatigue, playing sometimes on a hunch ( rarely though) and playing inferior games I like as long as I am there.
You may not achieve 101%, but some players are equipped to do so. Given the availability of 99.9% games, I don't think it's a frivolous concern from a management perspective.
All they have to do is look back since they opened over 25 years ago to see that I have added to their coffers 10k-80k a year without exception. They should be drooling to keep me there playing as often and long as possible.
They seem to think you'll play anyway. Maybe you need to call their bluff.

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applepear86 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:11 pm
If they gave it for every 6,000 unlimited I would be on a plane to Connecticut hitting up that 9/6 JOB lol.
Or the Picky M.

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All they have to do is look back since they opened over 25 years ago to see that I have added to their coffers 10k-80k a year without exception.
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Post by olds442jetaway »

My friends and I did call their bluff for several months a couple of years ago and it didn’t seem to change anything. Some players were playing way higher than my level. What I heard was the bean counters are getting used to the immense returns they are getting on regular slots raking in 8-14 percent at least. They also have so many other ventures going all over the world that VP is just not a priority. I also contacted a host recently at Foxwoods which is huge and only 15 minutes away. I had a nice conversation with them about offering to switch 50 percent of my play to them on a trial period if they would match my current benefits at Mohegan or at least give me an equivalent play level card ( platinum ) that I was before Covid for 60 days. They said no can do. I said OK and haven’t played even one cent over there and don’t intend to. In response to FAA, I am just a drop in the bucket compared to what some players leave over there.

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Post by dinghy »

olds442jetaway wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:39 pm
What I heard was the bean counters are getting used to the immense returns they are getting on regular slots raking in 8-14 percent at least.
That's a fact.

If it's any consolation, I have to look far and wide to fill out my schedule of plays. I evaluate casinos both local and out of town. I readily play games other than vp if I find the right setup. And I hope to escalate my online action.

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Post by applepear86 »

olds442jetaway wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:39 pm
What I heard was the bean counters are getting used to the immense returns they are getting on regular slots raking in 8-14 percent at least.
I think this statement summarizes everything. And over here in Michigan that slot figure is more like 15-25 percent from what I've been told lol. They want to absolutely rake you over the coals and give you nothing. They're getting used to the 300 pound women aimlessly wasting 800 dollars a visit on the firelink games or the bluberi devil square machines popping up everywhere. The theoretical loss these people give must equal their entire buy-in, I've watched them play and there's no stop loss or take profit; they just spin until everything is gone lol. These are the only "gamblers" they care about it seems, and since these b*stards have a monopoly most of the time in an area they know you're going to come anyways.

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Post by mansi1989 »

does anyone has any idea are video poker online rigged and can tell why on virtually when i do flat betting strategy it wins, but when i start new refreshing browser my real money play at the right time it looses. I have tried tested it long enough. Can this refreshing into new browser affect the gameplay somehow. because you can literally feel the difference.

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I feel you.

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