STACK 'EM HIGH

Why do you play video poker? What is your favorite game and why?
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Re: STACK 'EM HIGH

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My local had two machines and both are usually taken by people playing 5c. I've seen some nice handpays on it, but the one time I tried it for quarters I got wrecked. When the feature finally came up I bricked. RIP.

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Post by TripleTriple »

olds442jetaway wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:12 pm
Guess I am a true 🦕. I just can’t get into any of the gimmick games
Some would say Spin Poker is a gimmick game, no?

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Post by olds442jetaway »

I don’t see it that way. Same long term EV as say triple play with the same paytable. You are just hoping to match up other hands with what you are dealt or get a great dealt hand. Anyway just my take on it.

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Post by Nena Buena »

Stack em high is the best game. I also play any poker game that has deuces wild.

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Post by seals »

Hollywood in Lawrenceburg IN has it

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Post by loldongs666 »

There is one machine at Encore Las Vegas by the player's card desk in the middle of the casino floor, $0.25 minimum denom.

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Post by Karl_EDT »

This might be the best example of a feast or famine game ever.

What happens if you're playing DDB and get dealt something like A 4 4 4 A? Is it like Extra Draw Frenzy where the game ignores the gimmick and forces you to just accept the full house? Or can you just hold the Aces and trash the 3 fours to try for the gimmick payoff?

Here's another interesting hand with this game, suppose you are dealt A K Q J A where you are also four to a royal? What do you do then?

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Post by New2vp »

Karl_EDT wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:33 pm
What happens if you're playing DDB and get dealt something like A 4 4 4 A? Is it like Extra Draw Frenzy where the game ignores the gimmick and forces you to just accept the full house? Or can you just hold the Aces and trash the 3 fours to try for the gimmick payoff?
You can just hold the aces if that is your choice. I was dealt queens full of aces, playing TDB in a contest here, held AA and was lucky enough for them to improve to quad aces on hand 5 yielding 3 hands of 4 aces, 2 of them with the kicker. Whether you should hold only the aces probably depends on the game. See below.
Karl_EDT wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:33 pm
Here's another interesting hand with this game, suppose you are dealt A K Q J A where you are also four to a royal? What do you do then?
I imagine this one is different by game, by whether it is 3-play or 5-play, and by pay table. The payoffs vary quite a bit. The "9-6" DDB games that are the default games on this site actually do not pay 9 for full house, 6 for flush when you increase your bet per hand from 5 coins to 10. The 5-play "9-6" game actually pays 10/7/5 for full house/flush/straight, while holding just the Aces triggers 3 extra hands for a total of 8. The 3-play "9-6" game pays 10/8/6 and actually pays 4 per hand for 3 of a Kind instead of the standard 3 per hand; holding aces with 3-play also triggers 3 extra hands for a total of 6.

So, the different payouts on the straight and flush even affect the per-hand Expected Value of holding 4 to the royal between the two "9-6" games. At the same time the different number of hands starting with a pair of aces, 8 and 6, has a huge effect on the outcome. You get more than double the number of quads with 8 hands than you do with 6 when drawing sticky to a pair of aces.

Bottom Line with 3-play, drawing to the 4-card royal is expected to produce 3 x 95 = 285.00 coins, while drawing 6 hands to the pair of aces is expected to yield 291.26 coins. So, the pair wins by a relatively skinny margin.

With 5-play, the 4-card royal has a value of 5 x 93.83 = 469.15 coins while 8 hands holding the pair is worth 548.70. Here the pair of aces is a heavier favorite.

Other games or even other pay schedules on the same game may instead favor holding the 4-card royal.

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Post by Karl_EDT »

Thank you, poster-New2vp, very thorough and easy to understand answer. I don't know if I will ever have a chance to apply this since I have yet to encounter the game in a real casino, but I learned something, especially the four to a royal scenario. I would have instinctively tried for the royals both 3 and 5 handed but I now see that would have been a mistake especially 5 handed.

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Post by Karl_EDT »

Playing Power (10 handed Stacks) Super Double Doulbe Bonus just a while ago, I was suffering through a famine and then I hit dealt four-of-a-kind Aces without a Kicker (8 of hearts). I was obviously excited but then realized that this wasn't a hand to trigger to gimmick-bonus! But then I realized that the ten hands I now draw holding four aces have a minutely greater than 50-50 shot of improving each hand to either 1600 or 2000 depending on the kicker I get. There were 47 cards in the deck remaining and 24 total Kickers (4 each of kings queens and jacks, plus 4 each deuces treys and fours). I only improved 3 out of 10 hands, total win was 11,200 credits. SO if I had been in a casino playing quarters that would be a hand pay of $2800

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