NEW2VP..How 'bout them Jayhawks! Never thought they would get past NC. Even though the current players on the J-Hawk team never played for Roy Williams, you'll never see another "grudge match" much more intense than that one last night <LOL> Williams left KU a few years ago to take the position at NC. Obviously, a lot of folks in Kansas were not pleased with that decision!
I may have to get me a ball-marker with the KU logo. Okay....I'm ready for the jokes...but that is what they are called....mark your Golf Ball on the green!
Back in Febrary I noticed Kansas had the lowest odds of any team for winning the national title at one particular sportsbook (and Memphis was still undefeated at this time). Maybe they knew something ...
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bigsteve5273@yahoo.c
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Thanks for the statistics and info , New2VP. I regret that your team didn't hold up but am glad you spent the time to run off the data. The 43000 play thought experiment has been on my mind since I first came across 100 play . The stats certainly keep in perspective the house edge and how difficult it is to get and stay ahead even with only a 10% chance of no RF's in any 18 hand sequence. That's about 3/4 of a million hands with no RF. Next Shadowman's excellent reply got me to thinking that with the W2-G's the IRS is actually betting with the house. Good luck all with the the finals.
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New2vp
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NEW2VP..How 'bout them Jayhawks!
They looked great and I can see the incentive that Kansas had against NC for "stealing" their coach...even if he did leave them to go home. I didn't watch much national basketball this year until the tournament and must admit that I didn't give Kansas much of a chance in this game...mostly based on their performance against Davidson. I guess Davidson either played a series of great games or was seriously underrated. Memphis has looked unstoppable in several of the games, so it should be a great game to watch Monday.
Once the Big 10 bowed out so disgracefully, I really didn't have a rooting interest except for trying to win a pool. In a performance that most of you would have rightfully ignored, I was happy for next year that the Buckeyes won the right to be called the 65th best team in the country (or is it 66th now that there is that extra play-in game in the NCAA?).
Good luck to Kansas. I'll help you in pulling for them.
They looked great and I can see the incentive that Kansas had against NC for "stealing" their coach...even if he did leave them to go home. I didn't watch much national basketball this year until the tournament and must admit that I didn't give Kansas much of a chance in this game...mostly based on their performance against Davidson. I guess Davidson either played a series of great games or was seriously underrated. Memphis has looked unstoppable in several of the games, so it should be a great game to watch Monday.
Once the Big 10 bowed out so disgracefully, I really didn't have a rooting interest except for trying to win a pool. In a performance that most of you would have rightfully ignored, I was happy for next year that the Buckeyes won the right to be called the 65th best team in the country (or is it 66th now that there is that extra play-in game in the NCAA?).
Good luck to Kansas. I'll help you in pulling for them.
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bigsteve5273@yahoo.c
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How about them Jayhawks? wooohoo!
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scorpio2
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so,i guess that would be like in the optimum play vp book,as opposed to bob dancers theory,that it's better to play for the win every time,to extend your playing time with small paybacks,which add up.like holding a k,q instead of a suited q,10,so you would get a higher payback.
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scorpio2
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who makes,and sets the rng's?
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Webman
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Not sure what you mean by "sets," scorpio. Software developers develop the RNGs for their programs or use existing random number functions sometimes built into the programming language. I'm not sure which method VPW uses, but it is programmed in .NET so the RNG is built either by Microsoft or a custom script. There are a lot of different algorithms available online if you're interested in how these random numbers are arrived at.
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cddenver
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I'm not sure which method VPW uses, but it is programmed in .NET so the RNG is built either by Microsoft or a custom script.
I can't think of any reason why VPFW would use anything other than the standard Microsoft RNG. There's no incentive to "beat" VPFW (no money involved), so there would be no reason for the VPFW developers to write their own RNG, or even to use the advanced Microsoft RNG which is intended for cryptographic use (password generation). I tested the standard Microsoft RNG many years ago against one of the randomness standards we have here in CO, and it passed.
I'm sure that there's info somewhere on the Internet with details of the Microsoft RNG. I've never checked.
I can't think of any reason why VPFW would use anything other than the standard Microsoft RNG. There's no incentive to "beat" VPFW (no money involved), so there would be no reason for the VPFW developers to write their own RNG, or even to use the advanced Microsoft RNG which is intended for cryptographic use (password generation). I tested the standard Microsoft RNG many years ago against one of the randomness standards we have here in CO, and it passed.
I'm sure that there's info somewhere on the Internet with details of the Microsoft RNG. I've never checked.
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scorpio2
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ok,i read in one of bob dancers old articles,where the rng is from itg,and another one,but very close to the casino rng's.
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EDC1977
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ok,i read in one of bob dancers old articles,where the rng is from itg,and another one,but very close to the casino rng's. IGT supplies a good majority(monopoly?) of the casinos with VP and slots. RNG chips are onboard but it's up to the slot tech to adjust paybacks and monitor the RNG for proper function. Gaming control boards also make sure things stay on the up and up.
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