Best VP in PA, MI, WV, or ON canada

[mltoth2000]

I live in the Cleveland, Ohio area. I would like to know where the
best pay backs on VP are around the area. I have heard that the
Meadows in PA is good but also Greektown in Detroit. 

[Tedlark]

Is your first name Mike?

[faygo]

Maybe Ohio Bob or marie meijer could chime in and help. Years ago when I played in the Detroit market I found Greektown to be the most lucrative.

[marie meijer]

Welcome to forum, mltoth2000! I love to play at Greektown, when I win. Like anywhere else, you have to check out those pay tables. On one bank I will play DDB, facing towards the poker room, on the 2nd floor. They just replaced some of my lucky machines with volatile Ultimate X . At another bank facing in the opposite direction towards the out of sight snack bar, it's advantageous to play DW. Why do VP players continue to play DW when the WRF is 100 credits. I keep telling them the machines behind us pay 125 for that WRF. IF anyone ever told me there were better machines a few few feet away, I'd just pick up my yogurt and water bottle and move!  A couple of years ago, Dancer taught his VP class at Greektown and he claimed they had the best pay tables in town. Greektown has made huge and expensive improvements in recent times including super new parking structure on Monroe or service drive off 375.

[marie meijer]

Greektown gives out a free calendar at the first floor players club, while the supply lasts. Only one to a player card. There are a couple coupons at the base of each month and one is for double points all day Sun-Thurs. One must present that coupon at players club before playing. Greektown mails out $10 weekly bonus. MGM dropped their mailed bonus from $75 to 35.00 weekly, this week. Motorcity mails out $6. and Caesar Windsor mails out $15 weekly bonus, two free nights, two free concert tickets to many great performances of your choice. The amounts of bonuses and offers tend to fluctuate from month to month. It seems the offers are decreasing in amounts. While I enjoy all four casinos, I do have more wins at Greektown and MGM.Today, a picture ID (driver's license or state ID card) and birth certificate OR a passport are required to enter and leave Canada via US.  The tunnel costs $3.75 in either US or Can. currency each way. The Ambassador Bridge rate is $4.The exchange rate is currently in our favor and can fluctuate daily. Approx. $120. Canadian for $100. US. There are TITO type redemption machines that will convert US currency to Canadian or go to the cashier.  Passports (or equivalent travel document) will be required starting June 1, 2009. Because Caesar Windsor is now a Harrah's property, they show up on Harrah's win loss statements. Before Windsor became Caesar's, what happened in Windsor stayed in Windsor, and no W2 Gs used to be issued.  I haven't hit that W2 G amount since Caesar's took over to know what happens there now re taxes. The three Detroit casinos are in close proximity for driving and you could check out all of them in one day.  All have nice buffets and other restaurants and pleasant parking structures. Check out their locations on the computer before leaving home. Report back to us and good luck! 

[Gwyndon]

My one and only RF came on Motor City on a .25 cent progressive machine.

[bmar]

The Meadows casino is 20 minutes from my house and Wheeling Island 50 and I enjoy both greatly. I would choose The Meadows right now due to the fact that they have a good selection of games including some good paying $1 and $5 DDB and a good selection of 3-5-10 play games. If you wait until Late April or early May they will be moving from their temp casino to the fixed building which will have 4,000 games. If you are a table game fan Wheeling is doing well with their selection including low limit blackjack and a good poker room.
 
It is funny most of the people I know who would be visiting Atlantic City have stopped and make both the Meadows and Wheeling their choice for gaming.

[LJZ]

In the Detroit area, MGM has .25, .50, & $1 pickem on multi-game multi-denoms, and I think they also have 9/6 DBL, DBL at the $1 level, up at the middle main bar tops.   Greektown has .25 & $1 full pay pickem and also 8/5 Super Aces at the $1 level, (single line).  They also have a progressive $1 royal flush up at one of the bars that has NSU deuces, 9/6 JOB, 8/5 Bonus poker 175 for all quads, 9/5 White Hot Aces and 10/6 DBL, DBL on it, which is probably your best bet for high stakes single line play.  They also have a couple of pickems at the $2 & $5 level in the high stakes room.  In the smaller VP rooms that cross the "narrow cat walk", near the live card poker rooms, they have Super Times Pay 3/5/10 play with 9/6 JOB at the $1 level.  In that same room on the wall they have .25/.50 9/6 JOB & NSU deuces, but that is only single line.  Greektown doesn't really have anything good if you are looking to play multi-hands, for that I'd go to Motor City, where they have lots of multi-hand, 3/5/10 plays on ALL-STAR VP machines, where you can play super times pay, spin poker and the 3/5/10 play all on the same machines, chase the royal......etc.  They have 9/6 JOB, 8/5 Bonus poker, 9/7/5 DBL Bonus, 9/6 DBL, DBL, 7/5 Super Aces, and Bonus Boker Deluxe, Ugly Ducks, and All American Poker on the same game menu.They just recently opened up a new bar, called STRUT, where I found 9/6 JOB spin poker super times pay at the .25, .50, $1, & $2 level.  They also have 8/5 bonus poker on it, and Ugly duck deuces, and Joker poker where quads pay back 90, and not 100.  They also have 9/7/5 DBL bonus I believe and 9/6 DBL, DBL bonus on this same menu also.  The spin poker super times pay is on a game menu, with like 6 different games to choose from.Canada or Caesar's Windsor has really nothing much to play now besides $1 full pay pickem, everything else is pretty bad there now, like 8/5 JOB or worse, so I only go there to play pickem and to put some points on, on my Harrahs, total rewards card, but they do send out pretty good free room offers, free show tickets to concerts and weekly cash back, PLUS the entire casino is SMOKE-FREE in Canada !So if triple, five, or ten play is your game, I would most definitely play at Motor City.  Multi-play like 3/5/10 with 9/6 JOB is even hard to find in Vegas it seems and you can play it at high limits at a lot of the games at Motor City from .25, right to $2 all on the same machines and the pay schedule does not change, on the All Star games......GOOD LUCK, where ever you venture too !-LZ

[MFP]

LJZ,
I agree with what you said about Motor City. I was there about 2wks ago
2nd hand AAAA on DDB & about 1-1/2 hr's later AAAA2 on DDB. The only gripe about about Motor City very few VP machines opposed to MGM. Old VP machines @ Motor City. Actually the machine I was on when I hit AAAA2 the screen would move from side to side a little bit, but I was holding my own & didn't want to give it up...

[marie meijer]

Welcome to forum, Gwyndon and LJZ! Nice royal, Gwyndon. Great recall or notes of Detroit/Windsor VP machines, LJZ. MFP: Nice wins at Motor City - That wiggily VP machine sounds familiar! Today I encountered the same thing at MGM as you had reported recently. Computers were down. Attendant had to retrieve the tickets out and sign them. They could only be cashed by the two people manning the  large cashier's booth even after the computers were up again. Talk about a long line up! Even when the computers were up again, it took several machines before I could get my $45.00 mailed bonus out and cash backs. That amount was up from the $35. on the flyer they had just mailed. If that's an error, I hope it remains in my favor. It wasn't all that long ago when all the Detroit area casinos were giving $25-60 bonuses that sometimes were dependent upon how often or how much one played.