strategy question for anyone?

[oej719]

 1. Is the strategy for "triple bonus poker plus" close to the same as "double double bonus poker?"
 
2.  Also how does ddb strategy differ from "white hot aces"  and "super aces?"
 
3.   And which is better "triple play"  or "five play"?
 
 
They look like good games due to not needing that kicker.
Just from what I can tell the strategy should be about the same, maybe even less complex since no kicker?
 
 
Bob Dancer if you are out there give me a answer.
Thanks

[rascal]

On TDB I hold the kicker when I get three aces or three 2-3-4, in hopes of four aces with a kicker or four 2-3-4 with a kicker. The higher payout justifies it. However, I know other players hold the kicker just on the aces.
 
On DDB, of course, I do not hold the kicker.
 
I don't play white hot aces or super aces.
 
I have had some notable experts disagree with me, but when I play multi's I always pay max hands, max denom. If they offer 10 play that's what I play. Otherwise, 5.  For other players fewer is better. Just personal style, I think.

[shadowman]

 1. Is the strategy for "triple bonus poker plus" close to the same as "double double bonus poker?"
 
2.  Also how does ddb strategy differ from "white hot aces"  and "super aces?"
 
3.   And which is better "triple play"  or "five play"?
 
 
They look like good games due to not needing that kicker.
Just from what I can tell the strategy should be about the same, maybe even less complex since no kicker?
 
 
Bob Dancer if you are out there give me a answer.
Thanks
 
Not sure if you are looking for Dancer or really want an answer ... in any case, you must post pay tables in order to do any comparison. All of these games can be analyzed by FVP or VPSM and a strategy produced. I also assume VPfW can do the same. With FVP you can copy the strategy from DDB into TB+ and see exactly how it impacts the payback.
 
The full pay version pay table of TB+ is:
 

 1-1-3-4-5-9-50-120-240-100-800
 
Is this the pay table you are interested in? Since the flush payback is less with this game you will see some differences from 9-6 DDB. You will also see some differences due to the higher paying straight flush. The same type of comments also hold for WHA and SA.
 
Finally, the difference between triple play and 5-play is mainly the number of hands you can play in a given amount of time. One is not "better" than the other.
 

[oej719]

 Shadowman
Nope I really want the correct opinion here.
  I was using the pay tables from the games on this site.
 
What do you think of the games I mentioned compared to DDB?
Are they better or worse?
 
Thanks

[shadowman]

 Shadowman
Nope I really want the correct opinion here.
  I was using the pay tables from the games on this site.
 
What do you think of the games I mentioned compared to DDB?
Are they better or worse?
 
Thanks
 
The best pay tables for those games are better than 9-6 DDB and worse than 10-6 DDB. The variance is similar and the strategies are somewhat similar as well.
 
I'm not too sure where you're headed here. Are you looking for other games to learn? Have you found these games in a casino? It might help to understand exactly why you are asking.
 

[oej719]

Trying to find a good alternative game to DDB. Yes Super Aces,
White Hot Aces, And Triple Bonus Poker Plus are all available where I play.
 
I never spend much time with them because I am used to playing DDB pretty well. If you tell me they are played pretty much with the same strategy as DDB, then I will give them more play.
 
Thanks

[JHock12]

It seems to me that if you want the best odds, play simple draw poker.  Boring perhaps, but in the long run the numbers add up.  I play DDB almost exclusively because I like the action, and a 25c/nickel guy like me can make a lot of money in a short period of time.  You can also have days(like last week)that you are lucky to get even 2 pair.  Dreaming about quad aces w/kicker.  Royals pay pretty much the same on every variation, and the RNG makes the odds of that happening infintesimal. 

[BOOPSAHOY]

JHock-theres nothing more exciting then getting dealt 3 ACES and pushnig that draw button on DDB--or even three 2's or three 3's!

[shadowman]

It seems to me that if you want the best odds, play simple draw poker.  Boring perhaps, but in the long run the numbers add up.   
 
In the "long run" the numbers add up to the expected return of whatever game you are playing. Doesn't matter if its JOB, DDB, craps or Keno. There is nothing special about "simple draw poker".
 
I play DDB almost exclusively because I like the action, and a 25c/nickel guy like me can make a lot of money in a short period of time.  You can also have days(like last week)that you are lucky to get even 2 pair.  Dreaming about quad aces w/kicker.  Royals pay pretty much the same on every variation, and the RNG makes the odds of that happening infintesimal. 
 
Lot's of actions is why DDB and similar games are the most popular. However, the likelihood of the RF is completely dependent on how you play. The more possibilities you give yourself the more likely you'll get it. That doesn't mean you should go for them, you could easily lose more than you'd win by getting a extra RF or two. As for "infintesimal" ... I've had 52 RFs in the last two years. I've also played around 2 million hands. I guess it all depends on your meaning of "infintesimal".
 

[shadowman]

Trying to find a good alternative game to DDB. Yes Super Aces,
White Hot Aces, And Triple Bonus Poker Plus are all available where I play.
 
I never spend much time with them because I am used to playing DDB pretty well. If you tell me they are played pretty much with the same strategy as DDB, then I will give them more play.
 
Thanks
 
I would suggest investing in a program like FVP where you "export" the strategy for DDB into these various games and find out the payback for using the DDB strategy. Once you've invested in this type of program you can decide whether it's worth your while to learn any differences. In any event you should double check the paytables against the full pay versions to make sure they aren't poor paybacks.