Comps and Single Coin Play

[Lucky Larry]

Unless you go past their mailing period, no activity is always better than lower activity to keep the same offers.



Thats what we understand, too, as long as you don't become inactive. The key is either playing enough coin in to not worry about comps or learn how to "game" the system for example by both playing on one card to double coin-in, etc.

[FloridaPhil]

I wonder what happens if you play one coin and switch to max coins for 10 minutes an hour? In other words, how do they average your play?  Do they take all the play for 24 hours and average it out?  If I play 10 hours of single coin is that equal to 2 hours of max coins? 

[Vman96]

I wonder what happens if you play one coin and switch to max coins for 10 minutes an hour? In other words, how do they average your play?  Do they take all the play for 24 hours and average it out?  If I play 10 hours of single coin is that equal to 2 hours of max coins? 

I think a lot of places average it daily. So 10 hours of one coin and 2 hours of max coin would expect a similar amount of comps. Not entirely positive on this though.

[FloridaPhil]

This is an interesting topic. My wife and I play on the same MLife account and together play a minimum of 6 hours a day each, usually at the quarter level.  Averaging 600 hands an hour, that's about 7,200 hands a day at $1.25 a hand or $9,000 a day.   Doing this, we get free flights from Florida, three rooms during the week and a couple hundred dollars in food.  If we play Jacks and have a bad couple of days, together we can lose $1,500.  Most times, it's much less than that.  If you factor in the rooms, meals & fun, the Beau is worth the money in our view. I have walked out way over $1,500 a few times.  This is one case where playing a negative expectation game is not all that bad.  You're going to lose some, but you have to factor in all they give you.  Also, you need to stay disciplined, play as perfect as you can, not go on tilt and stay away from high volatility games.   I have a tendency to do this, which is why they keep inviting me back. 

[Vman96]

  Also, you need to stay disciplined, play as perfect as you can, not go on tilt and stay away from high volatility games.   I have a tendency to do this, which is why they keep inviting me back. 

Well, what are your actual losses on average then?   

But if all these comps are just coming from JoB, then it sounds like it has good bounceback at least. They only offer 8/5 JoB there right?

[FloridaPhil]

The Beau Rivage has all the popular video poker games. The last time I was there, Jacks quarters was 7/5 with an 8/5 Royal progressive at the bar. The Royal progressive occasionally gets pretty big for quarter play.  DDB quarter play is 7/5 and 8/5 with a progressive on all the big hands in the non-smoking section in front of the poker room.  I've hit the 4aces-kicker in quarters before for over $700.  If you factor in three night's rooms, free drinks and a few hundred dollars worth of food, it's worth playing full coins. The Beau Rivage is a first class hotel all the way and the staff is wonderful.    We don't go to Vegas anymore because they don't care about small time gamblers.  In Biloxi, they treat us like valued customers.
 
Back on subject.  New casinos are popping up all over the place.  Florida is seriously considering opening up big time when the deal with the Tribes is over in two years.  I'm optimistic that the comps will get better, especially for serious quarter players like us.  We're not asking to stay in the "Mansion", we just want a good value for our money.  Together we're gambling a minimum of $1,500 an hour on negative expectation games for days at a time, that should be worth something.   Here's a message to those who want to open up a new casino.. "If you want us to come to your casino and play your lousy pay schedules, you need to provide something valuable in return". Otherwise, we're going to play somewhere else.  I'm sure our effect on their bottom line is currently next to nothing, but if enough new casinos open up and video poker players wised up this would change.  Bring on the "Casino Wars"!