On a roll now...
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FloridaPhil
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On a roll now...
I'm still playing around with my single coin .50 DW strategy and it's really working. My $250 session budget is lasting 3-4 hours and I have yet to be totally busted for the day. A month ago I hit a $500 quad deuce, yesterday I hit another one. What's weird is that the $500 quad deuce was the only 4-of-a-kind I saw all day. I thought I hit a 5 coin Royal and almost had a heart attack. I drew 4 to a Royal clubs with 5 coins in and hit the button with my eyes closed. Up pops the fifth club for a straight flush... It was exciting, but not as exciting as being up $2,000.
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Tedlark
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Keep up the good work Phil, I'll take bunches of small hits all session long.
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chattycattty
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I'm still playing around with my single coin .50 DW strategy and it's really working. My $250 session budget is lasting 3-4 hours and I have yet to be totally busted for the day. A month ago I hit a $500 quad deuce, yesterday I hit another one. What's weird is that the $500 quad deuce was the only 4-of-a-kind I saw all day. I thought I hit a 5 coin Royal and almost had a heart attack. I drew 4 to a Royal clubs with 5 coins in and hit the button with my eyes closed. Up pops the fifth club for a straight flush... It was exciting, but not as exciting as being up $2,000.
How exactly does your strategy work? Do you start out playing only a single coin and add to it if you have a winning streak? Therefore if you win 5 games in a row you are up to full coin? I am interested b/c I am beginning to play more and more DW. Is it a strategy that can be used on other games as well?
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Vman96
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How exactly does your strategy work? Do you start out playing only a single coin and add to it if you have a winning streak? Therefore if you win 5 games in a row you are up to full coin? I am interested b/c I am beginning to play more and more DW. Is it a strategy that can be used on other games as well?
I think it's something like what you describe; however, I would try to avoid that unless you can't afford to always bet max coin or betting one coin of a higher denomination is lower than 5 coins of a lower denomnation. The latter applied to my g/f last night. See wants to bet 25c on DDB. Her choices were 1-coin 9/6 quarters...or 7/5 DDB for nickels. I told her to bet one quarter. Also min-betting is more about a "survival strategy"... depending on the paytables, the game could be worse on average hourly loss.
All this being said, if this strategy works for Phil, that's great. But in the long-term, short-coining generally costs more on a percentage basis. On an hourly basis...not necessarily
I think it's something like what you describe; however, I would try to avoid that unless you can't afford to always bet max coin or betting one coin of a higher denomination is lower than 5 coins of a lower denomnation. The latter applied to my g/f last night. See wants to bet 25c on DDB. Her choices were 1-coin 9/6 quarters...or 7/5 DDB for nickels. I told her to bet one quarter. Also min-betting is more about a "survival strategy"... depending on the paytables, the game could be worse on average hourly loss.
All this being said, if this strategy works for Phil, that's great. But in the long-term, short-coining generally costs more on a percentage basis. On an hourly basis...not necessarily
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FloridaPhil
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First let me say that if I could play 100% plus games, I wouldn't play this way. If I had wings I could fly too, but that's not the way it is.
I've been playing video poker for about 10 years. I started out playing $1s and had some nice pay days. As always happens, the negative odds on the machines I have available caught up with me and the losses made me uncomfortable. I play one day a week, on vacations and on frequent road trips. My nearest home casino is about 80 miles away, so I need to play for as long as possible. I'm not comfortable with losing more than $300 a day. I love DW because it's so much more fun than any of the other VP games. I came up with this strategy over a long period of time and it works for me. It's simple and does what I want. It won't make you a long term winner, but it increases the excitement of the game, allows you to play longer for less money and gives you a decent chance at a good Jack Pot.
With my budget, I play at the .50 level. I put $20 in the machine and start off playing DW with a one coin bet. If I win 3 coins or less, I continue at one coin. If I win 4 coins or more, I hit the max coins button (5) and play the next hand. I then continue at max coins until I lose a hand, then switch back to single coin. I keep playing until I lose my $20 or the meter goes over $50. I cash out everything over $50 and put the ticket in my wallet. This assures that I will go home with something.
I try to find DW with a 4/4 pay schedule, which means it pays 4 coins for 4-of-a-kind and 4 coins for a full house. I play the same on a 4/3 machine, but you have less chance of hitting something good because you are playing fewer hands at max coins. Sometimes, you play through $60 or $80 without hitting anything. Somewhere along the line you will hit a Wild Royal or 5-of-a kind at max coins and it brings you back. What you are looking for is a quad deuce which happens about once every 5,000 hands or so. I play pretty fast, so for me that’s about every 5-6 hours. Some days I don’t hit one, but I can get a couple of max coin Wild Royals or 5-of-kinds and go home close to even. I have yet to go home with empty pockets unless I go on tilt and get out of my game plan (hate it when that happens). I hate to say it but most all my big losses are self inflicted.
I’ve tried this strategy with other VP games and it doesn’t work well. JB doesn’t have a decent Jack Pot unless you want to wait for a Royal. DDB is all feast or famine and doesn’t have the nice gentle runs that DW has. You have to be ready for a single coin Royal to play this way. Personally, I’ve had a ton of Royals over the years and I think they are way overrated. If I had to wait for a Royal to get paid, I would quit VP all together. For me, they’re just too elusive to be worth the investment.
I use Video Poker for Winners to test and train for these strategies. I can play DW at about 98% for hours at a time. This strategy has nothing to do with predicting hands. All you are doing is playing $2.50 a hand for about 20% of the hands and .50 for the rest and you are disbursing the max coin hands randomly throughout your play. Luck has everything to do with this strategy. It’s more exciting because you get to switch to max coins once in a while and each time you do something great can happen.
I've been playing video poker for about 10 years. I started out playing $1s and had some nice pay days. As always happens, the negative odds on the machines I have available caught up with me and the losses made me uncomfortable. I play one day a week, on vacations and on frequent road trips. My nearest home casino is about 80 miles away, so I need to play for as long as possible. I'm not comfortable with losing more than $300 a day. I love DW because it's so much more fun than any of the other VP games. I came up with this strategy over a long period of time and it works for me. It's simple and does what I want. It won't make you a long term winner, but it increases the excitement of the game, allows you to play longer for less money and gives you a decent chance at a good Jack Pot.
With my budget, I play at the .50 level. I put $20 in the machine and start off playing DW with a one coin bet. If I win 3 coins or less, I continue at one coin. If I win 4 coins or more, I hit the max coins button (5) and play the next hand. I then continue at max coins until I lose a hand, then switch back to single coin. I keep playing until I lose my $20 or the meter goes over $50. I cash out everything over $50 and put the ticket in my wallet. This assures that I will go home with something.
I try to find DW with a 4/4 pay schedule, which means it pays 4 coins for 4-of-a-kind and 4 coins for a full house. I play the same on a 4/3 machine, but you have less chance of hitting something good because you are playing fewer hands at max coins. Sometimes, you play through $60 or $80 without hitting anything. Somewhere along the line you will hit a Wild Royal or 5-of-a kind at max coins and it brings you back. What you are looking for is a quad deuce which happens about once every 5,000 hands or so. I play pretty fast, so for me that’s about every 5-6 hours. Some days I don’t hit one, but I can get a couple of max coin Wild Royals or 5-of-kinds and go home close to even. I have yet to go home with empty pockets unless I go on tilt and get out of my game plan (hate it when that happens). I hate to say it but most all my big losses are self inflicted.
I’ve tried this strategy with other VP games and it doesn’t work well. JB doesn’t have a decent Jack Pot unless you want to wait for a Royal. DDB is all feast or famine and doesn’t have the nice gentle runs that DW has. You have to be ready for a single coin Royal to play this way. Personally, I’ve had a ton of Royals over the years and I think they are way overrated. If I had to wait for a Royal to get paid, I would quit VP all together. For me, they’re just too elusive to be worth the investment.
I use Video Poker for Winners to test and train for these strategies. I can play DW at about 98% for hours at a time. This strategy has nothing to do with predicting hands. All you are doing is playing $2.50 a hand for about 20% of the hands and .50 for the rest and you are disbursing the max coin hands randomly throughout your play. Luck has everything to do with this strategy. It’s more exciting because you get to switch to max coins once in a while and each time you do something great can happen.
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chattycattty
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Thank you Phil for explanation. Think I will practice on this website by doing 10 sessions of 100 hands each and see how it turns out.
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FloridaPhil
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I'm not sure that's enough of a test, but give it a try and see how you like it. What you will notice is the interesting up and down runs DW goes through as you play. You can go through 3-4 $20s with nothing and then all of a sudden the game catches up when you hit a Wild Royal or 5-of-kind with max coins. I actually like the long dry spells because each draw only costs me .50 and I know a good run is coming down the road. All you want is to tread water until you hit a quad deuce. Even a short coin quad deuce pays $100 and it could be $500. Cashing out every ticket over $50 is crucial. For some weird reason DW commonly goes dead just after a good hand and you don't want to give back a good profit. I know this stuff just drives the numbers guys crazy, but it works much better for me than pounding away at max coins and fighting the long term negative odds. It's a proven fact that playing short coin on a negative expectation game cuts your losses. All I'm trying to do is extend my play as long as possible and still have a shot at a decent jackpot once in a while. This strategy does that for me.
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