trip to AC

[DaBurglar]

no reply burglar?
  reply?     to which one of your posts here ???      I said what I said, and in case you missed my point(s), I said to simply report back the truth about your results, if you want to...... of course, I hope you have a great time and actually win, but by your own admission(s), clearly you have not in the past.......that is not what I am getting at.....  I never "EXPECT TO WIN" when I go to a casino and play ANY game that has a house advantage....jeezus I cant believe I have to repeat so many obvious points that I have stated and re-stated in past posts.    My issue with AC video Poker is and was that my losing was way beyond anything I had ever seen in 20 plus years of previous video poker experience.    Video Poker in AC yields negative results that fall way out of normal expected MATHMEMATICAL ranges, IF you play with the assumption that the game's paytable is the final word on the return percentage of that game......THAT's all I am saying!       When I kept getting such results over and over, This caused me to look into it further and dig past such assumptions, and I have reported back what I uncovered and experienced. I have said many times, I like Atlantic City and I enjoy myself there IN SPITE of my video Poker results, I simply post what I post because I believe (still) that AC could be so much better than it is....in fact, what should be obvious to anyone who visits AC and has known the situation there these past 5-6 years, what I am saying about their VP is actually part of their problem......people no longer visit AC because, for many of them, they lose TOO frequently or too sharply and the Video Poker is a classic example of what is keeping AC in the crapper......they need to at least resume setting their VP machines like Nevada's are, with the paytables as the arbiter of return percentage.   They should also loosen up their slots at least temporarily, advertise that they have done so, and give gamblers a reason to return.....Revel at least showed it will work, despite the fact Revel shot themselves in the foot AFTERWARDS with how they treated certain players. The final thing I will say, to Doris, in this post is this:   You stated you have played (and lost) in both AC and Vegas.....so have I, and so have, I imagine, anyone else here who has played in both markets.......Doris, how would you compare the two places and two experiences, AC  vs.  Las Vegas, in terms of your Video Poker results?   Did you find that even though you lost in Las Vegas, that your money at least LASTED longer than it does in AC?     That is my current view, since obviously Vegas' Video Poke rmachines are ALL set to return exactly what the paytable implies, while AC's video Poker i sset to return anywhere from as high the paytable implies, all the way down to 83% (the lowest level allowed for any slot machine.)

[edog743]

Da maybe AC is doing you a huge favor by taking your funds faster. So you can get to the more important things in life.

[DaBurglar]

let me also restate something I mentioned before:   NOT ALL of AC casinos are the same with respect how they set their VP machines, as this is something I have both uncovered myself and was told by the people I spoke with in the gaming office on Tennessee avenue.... For example, Borgata is, by all measures and accounts and concensus, the BEST casino in AC, and as such, it seems they choose to keep most of their VP machines exactly what we would expect, set at or near the paytable....this makes sense for many reasons, including the fact it is still the only consistent AC casino in terms of profits, and mor eimportantly number of visitors and TOTAL Revenue....this means Borgata at least maintains and even grow its customer base....... Harrah's also is the best of the four CET casinos in AC, again by indicator of its Revenue and total customer base.      More pertinently, I myself have played at both casinos and they are the only ones in AC where my results even come close to expected mathematical ranges, but sadly, only about 10% of my total play over the last 4 years was at both these properties.    Because of my circumstances, I find it difficlut to stay at either of these two AC properties because they are isolated over on the marina and you really cannot get anywhere else from there except by JITNEY or  CAB, so i thus far have not played as much as I would like there.....this may change in the future though, as I have been more active playing REAL Poker tournaments and cash games, and Harrah's and Borgata's Poker rooms are among the best and most important on the entire East Coast. It is a well known fact that AC's decline is due to the casinos on the Boardwalk losing customers and revenue at an extreme rate these last 5-6 years, upwards of HALF their business has left.....HALF!     Several Boardwalk properties are on life support while the others are desperate to retain what business they have left, let alone actually GROW again.   This type of business situation, and climate, lends itself to the type of thinking that has permeated AC Casino business management, to decide to lower even VP return percentages to squeeze a few extra dollars out of remaining business.    it is typical short term thinking that ultimately, if left uncorrected, hastens a business' demise.  

[doris13]

no i don't think my money lasts any longer in vegas it disappears just as quickly

[DaBurglar]

no i don't think my money lasts any longer in vegas it disappears just as quickly
  well, first off let me say I am sorry to hear that.....most people I know, including myself, agree on the premise that video Poker in Nevada is much better than most other markets, including obviously AC, but your experience and perspective is your own so I will just leave it at that.....but the crappy thing is, at least for you doris, it seems Video Poker no matter what is a futile exercise no matter where you play in terms of profit and loss, but since you place a premium on the entertainment value and having a good time I say good for you in that regard and wish you continued success achieving that. Other players here (one Shadowman comes to mind) claim they are PROFITABLE video poker players year in and year out, and people like Bob Dancer actually makes a living out of it....plus others, myself included, while not playing to make a profit, do try to keep losses to the lowest possible number by playing perfect strategy and trying to always choose the best games in terms of return percentage.   AC does not lend itself to this approach it now seems..... As I stated many times before, in the past year I have greatly curtailed my play at AC casinos in terms of VP, and my reasons and frequency for going to AC have changed dramatically so I have learned and taken to heart what I have learned.   We'll see what happens when I get to Vegas in the near future.....

[Tedlark]

DaBurglar.....you mention that you have.....greatly curtailed your play at AC casinos.....in terms of vp.....so where else do youplay.....and can you please.....enlighten us with.....your thoughts on the other.....locations.....that you.....play?
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[DaBurglar]

DaBurglar.....you mention that you have.....greatly curtailed your play at AC casinos.....in terms of vp.....so where else do youplay.....and can you please.....enlighten us with.....your thoughts on the other.....locations.....that you.....play?
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 no where else as of late, which I intend to change this upcoming year with a few trips to Vegas.......Since January of this year 2013 I now spend roughly half the money and time playing VP in AC and instead play poker.....I still play enough VP though to earn enough points to keep minimal comps like free rooms since Poker play does not really earn enough to do the job, and I play enough VP to keep my skills sharp, and still retain enough activity to be able to speak with authority on the situation in AC.    I live only 1 hour from foxwoods and mohegan but I never enjoyed those places enough to keep going back, not to mention their vp was only marginally better than the lousy results I got in AC, but I never looked into their games the way I did AC.   They are too isolated and out of the way for my taste

[Tedlark]

  And you are an authority on vp? Is this an honorary title? Self proclaimed? Title gained through knowledge and experience? Achieved by filling out the inside of a matchbook cover and mailintg it in? Kinda like that art school that advertises the same way? I'd like to know how I would go about becoming an authority on vp, I could frame a certificate and hang it on my wall, proudly display it with all of the pomp it so richly would deserve. Imagine the doors it would open for me; velvet ropes would part and dignitaries would seek out my opinions, ah but for now I can only dream...

[DaBurglar]

  And you are an authority on vp? Is this an honorary title? Self proclaimed? Title gained through knowledge and experience? Achieved by filling out the inside of a matchbook cover and mailintg it in? Kinda like that art school that advertises the same way? I'd like to know how I would go about becoming an authority on vp, I could frame a certificate and hang it on my wall, proudly display it with all of the pomp it so richly would deserve. Imagine the doors it would open for me; velvet ropes would part and dignitaries would seek out my opinions, ah but for now I can only dream...
 see, distortion.   YOU are the one who distorts, either that or you cannot read.... I said "speak with AUTHORITY about VP in AC".....what that means is, by actually PLAYING and staying and visting AC, I can speak with authority (or in other words Accuracy and first hand knowledge, same meaning...)  The opposite would be me speaking about casinos in Mississippi, which I have ZERO authority since I never have been there.    I never said i was THE authority on AC, or even AN authority.....do you even comprehend grammar, and the difference between adjectives, nouns, etc?    Do you know what the word SEMANTICS means????   unreal! You are really in need of help, and I am actually beginning to feel very very sorry for you.....

[Tedlark]

From Websters, AUTHORITY: "an individual  cited or appealed to as an expert."
 
I took where you wrote that you: play enough VP to keep my skills sharp, and still retain enough activity to be able to speak with authority on the situation in AC.
 
I merely inquired as to how you became an authority?