Craziness Continues...

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alpax
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Re: Craziness Continues...

Post by alpax »

I know for sure higher denominations make a big difference for slots, but I highly doubt it for Video Poker/Keno if it is a Class 3 device.

I will probably ask the site webmasters with regards to higher coin denominations and see what they have to say about it.

http://www.videopoker.com/learn/superstitions/

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Post by Vman96 »

Nice hit Phil!!

That's about the only way to get anything these days... having it dealt to you.   

If I had to depend on being dealt quads, I would have been in big trouble this past year. I have run well below expectation for dealt quads.

I've only got 3 dealt quads out of 116 in the past 12 months. And none in nearly the last 6 months. For my sample, that's roughly 1 in 360 chance.


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Post by FloridaPhil »

I don't see many delt quads either, but they are always appreciated especially at high denominations.  My strategy is to not build up a big loss in the first place.   There are two ways to play this game; you can go all in or you can minimize your losses and take home your winnings.   Most people play single coin VP only when they are running out of money.   I take the opposite position.  I start with single coin play and only switch to max coins when I'm ahead.   This way you don't have to depend on being delt quads to make a profit.  When it does happen, it puts you ahead of the game and you can walk out with money in your pocket instead of licking you wounds.  It's hard for most player's to do because they have been taught to go for the royal at all cost.  It's a trap in my opinion.. 

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Post by alpax »

I got a quick response from the videopoker.com website master with regards to the supersition of higher coin denomination. I will not copy and paste the response, but the two points are:

1. The RNG card shuffler is completely isolated and is unaware of the game or denomination that is being played.

2. The denomination is only a factor to either cater the needs of high rollers or to offer a better paytable.

So rather than single coin $5, if the paytables are the same between the $1 and $5, might as well do max bet $1 in substitution to a single $5 play.

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Post by Vman96 »

I got a quick response from the videopoker.com website master with regards to the supersition of higher coin denomination. I will not copy and paste the response, but the two points are:

1. The RNG card shuffler is completely isolated and is unaware of the game or denomination that is being played.

2. The denomination is only a factor to either cater the needs of high rollers or to offer a better paytable.

So rather than single coin $5, if the paytables are the same between the $1 and $5, might as well do max bet $1 in substitution to a single $5 play.

Assuming the machine is designed to play from a random, standard poker deck, this is true. But if you haven't figured it out yet, half of the regular posters here have significant doubts over this...

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Post by olds442jetaway »

Nice hit Phil!!

[QUOTE=spxChrome] That's about the only way to get anything these days... having it dealt to you.   

If I had to depend on being dealt quads, I would have been in big trouble this past year. I have run well below expectation for dealt quads.

I've only got 3 dealt quads out of 116 in the past 12 months. And none in nearly the last 6 months. For my sample, that's roughly 1 in 360 chance.

[/QUOTE]

     My dealt quads on draw poker games are about average, but I never and I repeat never hit them on multi line games.

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Post by jayme35 »

If you cant play a machine at max bet then you need to leave or go to a smaller denom. I play a progressive quarter vp machine and I see people all the time playing 1 quarter. Um that 25 cent bet wins you 62.50 for a royal. why don't you go play Nickel vp loaded for 25 cents and win 200 dollars and stop screwing up our machines. 4 deuces on 1 coin blah. I don't care if it was a 5 dollar machine or not. Bet max or move along. Enough said.

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Post by Tedlark »


If you cant play a machine at max bet then you need to leave or go to a smaller denom. I play a progressive quarter vp machine and I see people all the time playing 1 quarter. Um that 25 cent bet wins you 62.50 for a royal. why don't you go play Nickel vp loaded for 25 cents and win 200 dollars and stop screwing up our machines. 4 deuces on 1 coin blah. I don't care if it was a 5 dollar machine or not. Bet max or move along. Enough said.
   Wow, heck of a first post. Phil's system is working pretty good for him and the best part is: he's happy.

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Post by alpax »

If you cant play a machine at max bet then you need to leave or go to a smaller denom. I play a progressive quarter vp machine and I see people all the time playing 1 quarter. Um that 25 cent bet wins you 62.50 for a royal. why don't you go play Nickel vp loaded for 25 cents and win 200 dollars and stop screwing up our machines. 4 deuces on 1 coin blah. I don't care if it was a 5 dollar machine or not. Bet max or move along. Enough said.

Nice Jackpot Makes Lady Mad Part Deux

Those single credit players contribute little by little towards the progressive while posing no threat to claiming the progressive Royal Flush, yet the poster complains about their play.

Cannot believe what FloridaPhil started

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Those single credit players contribute little by little towards the progressive while posing no threat to claiming the progressive Royal Flush, yet the poster complains about their play.

Cannot believe what FloridaPhil started

I initially missed the fact it was a progressive game. Yep, single to 4 quarter players are good for the general health of a progressive game. I played a $1930 progressive this weekend with a machine that only had a 0.5% meter, which made 7/5 Bonus get a little over 100%. I saw at least two people not playing max this weekend to also help boost the bank while gaining no benefit.

I think casinos underutilize progressives. People seem to be more drawn to play them if the meter has some movement (like 0.5%). I have seen a few $2000+ RF jackpots with 0.5% meters before as well.

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