RNGs & Randomness - Food for Thought

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shadowman
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Re: RNGs & Randomness - Food for Thought

Post by shadowman »

Anyone that played any time at all on slot machines back when the "near miss" was allowed figured out quickly that it was meaningless. In fact, it became somewhat of a joke.

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Whether the near miss was meaningless, a joke or everyone figured it out does not matter. They did it, they mislead folks, they made money off it and they paid no price for it. 

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Post by Tedlark »

And how would the near miss feature figure in with those players who stuck with a machine because they: "almost hit" and then did hit?

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Excellent arguement. It is ok to attempt to deceive many, as long as someone may benefit. Sounds like the new obamacare video that just went viral.

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While you believe the casinos would not engage in illegal acts,  would you concede that A casino might take advantage of any new technology or some area that is not covered by existing law, to their advantage?
I TOTALLY agree that it is feasible to build technology to do whatever you desire. I do not believe, however, that (A) it is in the casino's best business interest to have technology on their floor that does not conform to gaming regulations, and (B) if a 'rogue' casino decided to do it, even on only a handful of machines, I do not believe that some disgruntled employee of that casino would not sell that story to some publication in order to make some money.

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Post by OTABILL »

A recent incident that while not about VP machines is applicable to this topic we discussed a year and a half ago.


Man hacked random-number generator to rig lotteries, investigators say

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OTABILL, thanks, that is quite an article. -the technology can be rigged-it can go on for years-multiple people can know about it and keep it a secret-it can happen right under the nose of securitybut, of course this could never take place i a casino. we can rest assured, all the machines are safe, honest and random.

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Post by BradleyT »

Of course they could. But instead of conspiracy theories why not present some evidence that they do this?

Where exactly are your results not turning out like they should? 4 to a royal holds? 3 to a royal holds? Dealt royals?

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Post by FloridaPhil »






The games are not rigged, they don't need to be. 





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Post by Vman96 »

Of course they could. But instead of conspiracy theories why not present some evidence that they do this?


The problem with this is that your data has to be a true living hell of losing for the "mathy types" like myself to believe you. Because many terrible losing streaks can be mathematically proven as "bad luck". And by default, I assume "internet exaggeration" before believing a "conspiracy theory". Nothing stopping people from lying. This is the only site I post at where is it a significant concern in my mind though. The other two sites I post more at have occasional complaints about bad luck, but not nearly as much.

Before Aug. 2015, I was definitely below average on Royals thanks to a 35 month drought, but I still knew I was within common expectation, so I didn't harp on it too much. But since then I have got 3 royals, and should be close to average now.


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