Losing Streaks

[Lucky Larry]

Most recreational players love high volatility games because they see the big jackpot and don't think about what happens in between. If you find a less volatile game that you like, you will have a much better time managing your money. That's why I play Deuces Wild.  It's exciting, has a decent non royal jackpot and it's volatility is much less than DDB or quirky multiplier games.  I find those games a feast or famine experience that's depressing most of the time.

Right on Phil. Deuces Wild and Deuces Wild Bonus both offer a decent opportunity for nice hits while generally keeping you in the game long enough to catch the nice hits. And a Royal still pays 4000.

[FAA]

Deuces Wild and DW Bonus both offer a decent opportunity for
nice hits while generally keeping you in the game long enough to catch
the nice hits. And a Royal still pays 4000.Will have to look into DW. Is it generally a 99% game?

[FloridaPhil]

Standard Deuces Wild runs anywhere from 96% to over 100% for the full pay version.  Most of the games I play are in the 98% range. Some people are intimidated by the wide assortment of penalty situations.   Most of these are of little consequence to a quarter recreational player, so don't stress over them too much.  If you haven't already done so, buy some training software or upgrade and use this website. Dancer and Liam Daily wrote an extensive book on Deuces a few years back which may still be available on Amazon. Mine is pretty dog-eared...Once you get the basic strategy down, the small adjustments are easy.  It's a much different game than a quad jackpot based game like JB, DB or DDB.  It very exciting because all sorts of fun things happen when the deuces are present.  The best of these is a quad deuce for 1000 coins.  If you use the Cheap Strategy you can expect to hit one of these for $1,000 occasionally.  It's a lot more common than waiting 40,000 hands for a Royal.  Anyway, that's how I feel about it.  Good Luck! 

[alpax]

Dancer and Liam Daily wrote an extensive book on Deuces a few years back which may still be available on Amazon.


It is a quality book I must say, I would vouch for it to anyone looking to play Airport or NSU Deuces Wild. It uses full sheet 8.5 x 11 inch pages. My accuracy is now about at least 99.5% per 1000 hands (less than 5 mistakes per every thousand). There are 4 different levels of strategies you can choose from, I chose the most advanced.

You can get it from www.bobdancer.com and it is worth $16.50 + $7 tax = $23.50 if you do not find a used copy on www.amazon.com

If you cannot go to Southpoint to take a class from Bob, this is a great alternative.

[Vman96]

you're at less than 5 mistakes per 1000 now? That's pretty damn good. Better than me for sure. The only games I would expect myself to be that good on is JoB, and probably Bonus.

[DaBurglar]

The poster says he plays DDB and TDB , $5-$10 machines, and plays 95% accurate when he practices on this site.

So, he's making 5% mistakes at $25-$50 a hand, while playing high volatility games.

In my opinion this is actually more evidence that todays VP scene has a lot of players that are probably playing way over there heads, who don't know the strategies well enough, or have the proper bank roll for the games they play to survive the swings than it is evidence about the way the machines produce results.Ok, which proves (or disproves) what exactly?    One poster.... so what?since all you are offering here is your opinion (which is fine, you have every right to do so), I will also offer an OPINION that I think has a lot more relevance and chance of actually being correct:Today's scene DOES indeed have people doing just what you describe, BUT today's video poker scene is VASTLY different than what was around 15 years or more previously...... no doubt back then too you had lots of people doing and playing what you describe.    But a huge difference with TODAY is the amount of help, the amount of information, the amount of guides, the amount of expert advice available to people.Also, perhaps MOST important, is today you have sites like this one, along with hundreds of others, which allow posters like "mr 95%" to practice practice practice and improve......this was NOT the case prior to the year 2000 (more or less)......

[DaBurglar]

Heck, I usually find DaBurglar's posts very granular and  valuable. This ongoing tirade against him is stupefying.MPD, good for you for getting to the bottom of a tight machine with persistent inquiry. I would not have the resolve to do so. Nice reward for your troubles. Hope you did well with that $200 FP.   

Thank you FAA, I really appreciate that....sorry I missed this comment until now!And thanks to all who respond to me privately in this way, who are afraid to post publicly lest they feel the wrath of the "Bully Boys (and one girl)"

[djc32]

[QUOTE=djc32] The poster says he plays DDB and TDB , $5-$10 machines, and plays 95% accurate when he practices on this site.

So, he's making 5% mistakes at $25-$50 a hand, while playing high volatility games.

In my opinion this is actually more evidence that todays VP scene has a lot of players that are probably playing way over there heads, who don't know the strategies well enough, or have the proper bank roll for the games they play to survive the swings than it is evidence about the way the machines produce results.Ok, which proves (or disproves) what exactly?    One poster.... so what?since all you are offering here is your opinion (which is fine, you have every right to do so), I will also offer an OPINION that I think has a lot more relevance and chance of actually being correct:Today's scene DOES indeed have people doing just what you describe, BUT today's video poker scene is VASTLY different than what was around 15 years or more previously...... no doubt back then too you had lots of people doing and playing what you describe.    But a huge difference with TODAY is the amount of help, the amount of information, the amount of guides, the amount of expert advice available to people.Also, perhaps MOST important, is today you have sites like this one, along with hundreds of others, which allow posters like "mr 95%" to practice practice practice and improve......this was NOT the case prior to the year 2000 (more or less)......[/QUOTE]

Your right DB, it is just one poster, I guess you don't remember posting this in response to the O.P. ?


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Quote DaBurglar Replybullet Posted: 10 Mar 2015 at 11:48pm

Once again, more evidence to add to the pile that TODAY's video poker scene is far far less profitable, more rife with losing players and losing scenarios than ever before........(Quote)

So as you can see, YOU are the one who used the O.P. (one poster) as evidence to try and prove YOUR point that something has changed in TODAYS video poker scene.

I just simply stated my opinion that the games he plays ,the amount he plays for and the amount of strategy mistakes he's making may have more to do with his losing streak, than "dud hands" or the way the machine produces results.

As far as YOUR OPININON that you think has more relevance and a chance of actually being right, it makes no sense to me?
If the OP was actually using all these tools you mentioned, shouldn't he be able to play better than at a 95% rate? I know if I were playing for $25-50 a hand I'd make damn sure I could play at least at the 99% accuracy level before I'd even step foot into a casino.

[FloridaPhil]

"Video Poker isn't what it used to be...    Video Poker isn't what it used to be...    Video Poker isn't what it used to be..."    Is there an echo in here?

[FAA]

thanks to all who respond to me privately in this way, who are afraid to post publiclyThis forum safeguards identity quite well, so fear is irrational in any event.