The "Greed Chip" strikes again

Why do you play video poker? What is your favorite game and why?
notes1
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Re: The "Greed Chip" strikes again

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at the risk of repeating myself, i have asked this question before, can someone name most any other business, occupation, government agency, where corruption/crime/illegal actions have not taken place? why would we believe the casino industry to be the exception. as to why one would play if they are not sure if something is not 100% on the up and up, name me something that we can always be sure of. one cannot divorce themselves from the world. i have little doubt that the machines come off the assembly line are legal. but, just as each state has different regulations for gasoline or construction regs are different from one area to another, i would think it naive to presume each jurisdiction's laws and scrunity to be the same as nevada. is it not possible that in some area(s), casinos have curried favor that allows a deviation in how a machine operates. certainly there is no possibilty of an elected offical being bought. in my state (NC), which has the only casino that serves as a driveable option for much of the southeast, it has been stated on other threads, there is no gaming commision, the total budget is pitiful and i doubt any regulator has ever checked a single machine. it is a tribal casino and one of the highest grossing properties in the country, no competition. most of us play in locations other than nevada.   GM sold millions of defective cars over a $2 part, the clergy have been proven to do terrible deeds, 21 million plus folks just found their personal info was hacked off governnment servors, bernie maddof stole billions while regulators were checking on him since the 90"s, the list is endless. gamblers have no advocacy group, the states just want the money and in many cases, where there is money involved, corruption is not far away.  

Minn. Fatz
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Great points MF.
What I cant understand is why any player who thinks the casinos can inject variations into the machines would continue to spend there time and $ on VP if they believe this to be true? And yet some of these same players post about spending thousands of $ and hundreds of hours a year playing. If you don't believe the game is fair, why play?I'm with you, if I thought the EV on any given VP machine was likely to be even less than what it should be according to the paytable I surely wouldn't be tossing my dough at it. And from the point of view of the casino, there are just so many more legitimate ways to bump the house edge, from resetting the paytables to offering only higher-denomination or higher-variance games to watering the drinks, that I can't imagine they would need or want to run the risk of fiddling with the RNGs.

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I do agree that all the machines are legitimate. But I've run into two machines in particular that I dub Icebox. I am much less inclined to play those given the choice. And in AC, there is always a choice. Again, losing $50 was not catastrophic. I well may have broken even on the next $50 and maybe a small win on the $50 after that.  

Just curious FAA, what games were you playing on the Icebox machines?

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for all who believe that government regulators will protect the gaming public, we hear today another example of government regulation not working. just happens that the idiot who shot the folks in SC, should never have been allowed to purchase the gun he used, in the first place.  due to a clerical error at the FBI, the murderer was able to buy a gun, when he should have been denied. and, the innocent girl in SF was killed when a law that was on the books, was simply disregarded. if regulation in these very important agencies has flaws, how can one be so assured that a much less important regulatory group will be there to protect the gaming public.

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Post by Minn. Fatz »

VP players might could get as strong a lobby as gun manufacturers...National Videopoker Association anyone? The right of the people to find and play positive expected return video poker machines shall not be infringed?

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everybody enjoys a little sarcasm. but, i notice no attempt to address any of the examples of government regulatory failure or provide a list of occupations or organizations that have not had some corruption or instances of illegal activity. i guess the casino industry is the exception to the rule.   

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