Double Double Bonus vs Triple Double Bonus

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Purzel
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Double Double Bonus vs Triple Double Bonus

Post by Purzel »

I wonder what the main differences in strategy are between these two games ? I know that on TDB you should hold three aces with the kicker and with the three 2,3 and 4s you also the kicker. Are there any other strategies that differ ?

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I wonder what the main differences in strategy are between these two games ? I know that on TDB you should hold three aces with the kicker and with the three 2,3 and 4s you also the kicker. Are there any other strategies that differ ?
Just keep the chapstick handy if you do decide to play TDB often and regularly, because you will be KISSING your bankroll(s)  GOODBYE!!!     *rimshot*I'm here all week.....Seriously, with TDB, My cousin for a time played  TDB  to the exclusion of all else (he plays in AC too, mostly at Resorts, GN and Borgata, but unlike me he also plays at Foxwoods and Mohegan, and he heads to Vegas about once a month.)     In March 2012 until May, 2013, or about 15 months total, he played 50 cent TDB whenever and wherever he found himself in a casino for Video Poker.     Normally he is a Bonus Poker (33%), NSUD (33%) and DDB (33%) player in terms of how he spreads it around, and he is normally a bigger stickler than myself for choosing the BEST paytables available (hence, his choice to spread his action around instead of staying mostly in one location, like I have with AC for the past 5-6 years)For reasons only he knows, In March 2012 he decided to focus on "BIGGER PAYOFFS"  and made a choice to play exclusively (more or less) TDB......normally he is a $1 (and up but never higher than $5) denom player but wisely he chose to cut it back a bit to 50 cents when he started TDB, fearing the volatility......and he was correct.He LOST MORE in that 15 months playing 50 cent TDB at a variety of casinos all over the country than in any comparably similar period playing a variety of VP games at higher denominations, despite hitting (in his view) a decent number of ROyals, Quad Aces with Kickers, 2-3-4s with kickers, etc.    He really felt the three of a kind only paying  10 somehow REALLY amps up the volatility to a level he had not foreseen, given the expected frequency of three of a kind in a typical VP session.    I just shrugged  and thanked my lucky spokes that I do not particularly enjoy TDB

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Post by Carcounter »

Never played TDB and never will as long as 99.69% SDB is available.

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Post by FAA »



SMH. I myself am chastened after playing at the lofty dollar denom, min bet, and getting slammed. I just play quarter JOB, 99.54% if you please, and trust that somebody calls 911 should I faint from boredom. I hope they have paddles on the premises. 




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Post by FloridaPhil »


Have this tattooed where you can see it."The problem with video poker is not winning enough, it's losing too much between wins!"

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Post by Vman96 »

No one seems to be actually answering your question.

really it depends on the paytable you have.

It you have a "full pay" game aka 9/7, there are many differences between the games. When the flush pays 7 for 1 holding 3 to a flush is a common play.

You can compute strategies for any given paytable here.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-pok ... alculator/

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Never played TDB and never will as long as 99.69% SDB is available. LOL    yeah, ya think?!?!  

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Post by Purzel »

Thank you for the answer to my question, I know volatility is higher and I always believed that you should play riskier playing TDB. I am from Colorado and play mostly 9/5 DDB and wanted to play TDB at 9/6/4 which pays slightly higher than the 9/5 DB.

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Post by alpax »


It you have a "full pay" game aka 9/7, there are many differences between the games. When the flush pays 7 for 1 holding 3 to a flush is a common play.
From exploring regular 9/7 Double Bonus and 9/7 TDB in the past prior to playing at Luxor Las Vegas (they have both games), the 7 to 1 flush payout significantly alters the play from the games I am used to (the ones that pay 6 to 1 for a flush). Makes the games with 7 to 1 payout more difficult to learn, but with an average of 1.4% gain in payout from 6 to 7 it is worth learning them although a lot more penalty situations.Ultimately the high variance scared me away from playing both since the minimum denomination was $1.

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Post by alpax »






Thank you for the answer to my question, I know volatility
is higher and I always believed that you should play riskier playing
TDB. I am from Colorado and play mostly 9/5 DDB and wanted to play TDB
at 9/6/4 which pays slightly higher than the 9/5 DB.
If a player's long term result is 2.5 million or 5 million hands spanning 10 years. TDB even at 9/6 has a variance high enough to give the player a small chance to be a long term winner, at the same time, there are chances that the player will be a very big loser.I think Dancer heavily despises 9/5 DDB knowing that it is the game most recreational players play at quarters. He probably has done through research that there is absolutely no hope of winning long term.Edit: Though I mentioned 9/5 DDB when the actual post was 9/5 DB, still no chance of being a long term winner.




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