Florida Phil's Obsession with Me

[BobDancer]

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[alpax]

What a rebuttal.

It should have been another one of your weekly articles for Las Vegas Advisor.

[KingofAmerica]

Bob, your post is logical, well thought out, unemotional, and makes perfect sense. Therefore, most commenters on this site will hate it.

[FloridaPhil]

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[BobDancer]

Interesting apology.He says he's sorry for saying bad things about me but thinks I'm in a dishonorable profession. For sure he'll want to avoid my November10 LVA blog where I address my answer to a young man who wanted advice on whether or not to become a professional gambler. He describes winning $1,000 four times for hitting quad deuces while ordinarily being a single-coin quarter player. Quad deuces only pay $1,000 if you're betting max coins at DOLLARS, not quarters (or perhaps single coin $5 --- Hah!).So he goes from single coin quarters to max coins dollars, and he is able to do this with impeccable timing so that he hits quad deuces right away when he increases his stakes twenty-fold and holds on to most of the $1,000 each time.My professional opinion is that this sounds a lot more like BS than CS.

[alpax]

I think there is a difference in context between dishonorable and not honorable. One is despised (tax collector) and the other not regarded as anything exemplary (fast food clerk). FP stated his opinion about honorable, which regards to helping others. To some extent Mr. Dancer teaches people to play VP effectively so there is some honor to that. Then again we normally regard doctors highly, but they will do dishonorable things like white collar crime.

Totally understood Mr. Dancer does not find it worth the time to read about the the cheap strategy to get a better understanding, although it is short and concise. The CS is based on a progressive betting system and will live or die by streakiness. The player will have to do well with the $20 bill he/she put in the machine to reach the $1 bets at $25 balance (positive 20 quarter credits), and then hit 4 for 1 or better payout to bet max bet $1. None of this bet switching is done with timing, it is based on the total balance amount.

I never understood FP's intent to keep refuting Mr. Dancer's claims. Avoiding playing $1 8/5 DDB is what improved FP's bankroll rather than the CS.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=Bob Dancer]He describes winning $1,000 four times for hitting quad
deuces while ordinarily being a single-coin quarter player. Quad deuces
only pay $1,000 if you're betting max coins at DOLLARS, not quarters (or
perhaps single coin $5 --- Hah!). So he goes from single coin
quarters to max coins dollars, and he is able to do this with impeccable
timing so that he hits quad deuces right away when he increases his
stakes twenty-fold and holds on to most of the $1,000 each time. My professional opinion is that this sounds a lot more like BS than CS.[/quote]BS?  One of my $1,000 hits occurred after switching from quarters to $1s at the Golden Nugget Casino in Biloxi  Three of these hits occurred while playing $20 pot shots on single coin $5 machines at the Tampa Hard Rock. I posted a thread at the time discussing these hits and was severely criticized on this forum for advocating pots shots even though I promoted taking them with $20 a time.Last year I hit one $4,000 royal and a second one for $1,000 while playing 90% single coin quarters. I have hit a lot of $62.50 royals and a ton of $50 quad deuces as well.   I post my hits to my website so everyone can see them.  I also talk about them on this forum when they occur. Anyone can search my posts and see what I'm saying is true.  Does Bob post his wins?  I'll accept Bob Dancer's apology, but I doubt he is going to issue one.Why is it when I get lucky it's BS, but when Bob Dancer does it's genius?  I will continue to defend my statements, but I'm done promoting any strategy.  It's up to you how you play.

[FAA]

I still love hearing about CS every chance I get. It's just unfortunate that it acquired all this backlash, due to a perceived posting obligation no less. Any time you can avoid going bust with limited funds and playing for up to four hours, longer in Phil's case, I want a foothold  on that opportunity. Nobody wants to hear about the $50 quad deuces and $62 royals, much less accept them, but that's all part of the omelet. My timing ain't exactly impeccable either. A layer of cheap shame hits for a solid day. It's another layer of gambling.That 1300 word post was quite the throat clearing!

[wildman49]

I don't understand why someone from the Vegas market that plays $25 a hand cares about someone who plays twenty five cents a hand. Then runs down a system that he has never tried. The system works I have been using it for a year now. I have gained 4% more from last years losses to now play even. No its not going to make you rich but lets you play even. That's all many of us are looking for. STOP bashing something you have never tried, in you mind or on paper you think it don't or can't work, some of us know better as a way to play more even.So if you read between the lines in any of Vegas Bob 's posts you can see the only way he is ahead any given years in cash back and promo wins. Not VP by it self.

[FAA]

I don't understand why someone from the Vegas market that plays $25 a hand
cares about someone who plays twenty five cents a hand.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Exactly. I guess this was 1300 words of self defense.if you read between lines in any of Vegas Bob 's posts you can see
the only way he is ahead any given years in cash back and promo wins.
Not VP.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Which I'll never compile, so it's always been irrelevant.