Finally going to Vegas!!!!! November!

[Eduardo]

Yes, my play is limited to those few hours no matter how I do because the plane won't wait for me.   Of course, if I'm winning a ton, which I do not expect, I might stay up later than anticipated but that's about it.  Meaning, I'm not going to try to extend my play beyond that time by betting any lower. Only good fortune would keep me in the game, trying to steal back my winnings.
 
Shadowman, if nickels lasts longer than I expect I'll just bump that round up to quarters. Thanks. Maybe I shouldn't even mess with nickels given the short timeframe. I'll just feel it out and see. 
 
Eduardo were you pulling his chain?
He called me stupid and incompetent.  So why not go along with it.
 
To prove to the rest of you just how smart I really am, I am going to correctly spell Antidisestablishmentarianism. 
 
Here we go... A n t i d i s i s.  No, wait... A n t i d e.  Nevermind, too hard.

[oej719]

or could he be you know who?
His Engish was suspect and drew alot of help but his last writings leave no doubt that he could be a professional writer or else lhas been taking some good writing courses.

Shadowman maybe you will be picked to sit for OJ's vegas trial.
Get his autograph or maybe have a picture taken with him for me.



1111oej222

[Eduardo]

Eduardo, sounds like a fun plan. The only triple play $ deuces you will find are NSUD. The strategy for that game is quite different from FPDW. Is that what you want to play or are you interested in something else?

NSUD could work for phase 1 since it isn't based on sustaining for any amount of time at all.

After that I can shop around for paytables on my quarter play.

Is there any 3 line STP Deuces at the Hilton? That could really sweeten the phase 1 rush.
 

[bigsteve5273@yahoo.c]

You will have the greatest time of your life. There is so much to see and do for free. All the great casinos await you. The glitz. The glamour. The schlock. Keep an eye open for your favorite celebrities. Vegas is the #1 vacation destination for lots of reasons. Buffets, attractions, show girls.   And the best odds on gambling. we are all wishing you great succes. Good luck.

[shadowman]

NSUD could work for phase 1 since it isn't based on sustaining for any amount of time at all.
After that I can shop around for paytables on my quarter play.
 
There are 3 or 4 simple changes that you can use to improve your NSUD play.
 
1) hold both pairs instead of a single pair when dealt two pair
2) hold 4 for a flush over a pair
3) hold both 0 and 1 gap 3SFs (for example, W-68)
4) always hold dealt 5oaks even with 3 deuces
 
There are another 3-4 that provide additional small gains but those are probably enough for this trip.
 
BTW, the vpfree database does not list any multiplay deuces games that are considered good. We may be able to find an ugly ducks paytable (reduced version of NSUD). Otherwise, you will have to go to another casino.
 
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/CDNSUD.htm
 
They do have 3-play 9/6 JOB at the Hilton (also 10-play quarter). Those might be better choices for your quick and dirty run.

Is there any 3 line STP Deuces at the Hilton? That could really sweeten the phase 1 rush.  
 
None listed.
 
http://members.cox.net/vp_free/LASH.htm
 

[Eduardo]

Is "MG" Multi-game? Could that include STP or what are the options on that? What about All Star Poker, does that sometimes have STP?
 
I could always go single line for stage 1 with up to 21 draws if need be but hopefully we find something suitable.

[shadowman]

Multi-game is usually just a machine that has multiple base games available just like vp.com's single play program. However, you are right about All-star ... it usually has STP that may or may not be enabled by the casino.

[MikeA]

Is "All Star" the same as "All American Poker" or "USA Poker"?  If so, it is the only game available in the Kansas City, Missouri casinos (and only some of them at that) that is full pay.  40 for FH, ST and FL.  You do have to be careful though.  They will sometimes give you the 40 on the three middle hands and short you on the 4ok.Again, strategy is a bit hard to grasp because of the equality of the three middle hands.

[shadowman]

All-Star is a platform for many games/denoms/multi-play all rolled into one. It may include such things as the new games in the beta program, eg. chase the royal, double down stud, and many others like STP.
 
I have seen USA Poker on the All-Star platform but it is not the same thing.

[Eduardo]

Anyone else going to be in Vegas next Tuesday?