One coin dollar versus five coins quarters

[BobDancer]

 Forgive me for repeating myself, but as a new player, I could really use the help.
If a place has a good game for dollars, but a lousy payout for
quarters, are you better off playing the better game for less than max
coins?This was a post from a different thread. I think it deserves a better answer than what has been given so far.             This is a question that you can answer yourself. There are a number of software products that give you the max-coin return and one-coin return for most games. You can get the information for free from the wizardofodds.com site.              It really matters "how good" the dollar game is and "how bad" the quarter game is. There is no one-size-fits-all answer. Also keep in mind that single-coin and max-coin strategies are considerably different.               If you wish to become a competent player, you MUST use computer software to correct your mistakes. The information provided is very valuable --- and very low cost. Personally I own and use Video Poker for Winners, WinPoker, Wolf Video Poker, and sometimes consult the wizard's website. videopoker.com has considerable information as well. Each of these sources has different information --- although there is considerable overlap.                I've never seen a dollar game where playing one coin at a time is CLOSE to being an even-money bet.              Is playing zero coins an option for you? If you can't afford to play a good game --- but you insist on playing a bad game anyway --- you will basically NEVER have enough bankroll to play the good games. Playing bad games is expensive and expensive habits prevent you from accumulating wealth. Therefore, play zero coins and save your money until you have enough to attack the games properly.  

[paco13]

Good advice. Especially the last paragraph.

[billryan]

I thought I knew the answer, but wanted to be sure.
BTW- After attending three of your classes at Sp in Feb, I bought Video Poker for Winners,two Winners guides and a set of card but the only game I can manage to play on my computer is the game where you pay 20 coins off the top and the payout increases as you win and go up a level. I cant figure out the glitch. I'm moving in two weeks and hopefully one of my Vegas friends can debug it for me.

[BobDancer]

I thought I knew the answer, but wanted to be sure.
BTW- After attending three of your classes at Sp in Feb, I bought Video Poker for Winners,two Winners guides and a set of card but the only game I can manage to play on my computer is the game where you pay 20 coins off the top and the payout increases as you win and go up a level. I cant figure out the glitch. I'm moving in two weeks and hopefully one of my Vegas friends can debug it for me.The game you are talking about is Multi Strike.On the opening screen, the icon for Multi Strike is found in the bottom row, center column. You probably want Game King, which is the single-line version of most games, and the icon for that is found in the bottom row, left hand column.

[mickey crimm]

The only game I know of that is positive with short coin betting is 17/10 Loose Deuces.

[FAA]

Of course the best solution is to gamble in an area where pay tables are identical for dollars and quarters. Pretty cozy set up for some of us. I should exploit that situation a bit. Tropicana AC has an unfair set up. 8/5 quarter, 9/6 dollar JOB. A Dancer attack would have yielded a fat $125 quad, with a guesstimated $150-$200 in losses en route. I guess I can be comfortable with that. As it was, $25 quad with a net -$22 on machine. He really means well in helping those of limited means.

[DAAnMAAn]

Maybe the question can be framed another way...if I can play ugly deuces (98.9% ER) for full coin quarters or nsud deuces (99.89%) ER for dollars...but only one dollar at a time, which should I play (assuming no taking into account slot club)...fair question?
I'm under the impression that playing less than full coin diminishes return about 2% because of lack of Royal flush bonus? So nsud goes down to 97.89% ER? If this is true, I guess the answer is self-evident.
But waiting for someone to say true, false, or somewhere in between.
Cheers

[FloridaPhil]

Playing single coin has advantages in certain situations.  As long as you are willing to accept the good with the bad you can make the best decision based on your goals at the time.There are two main reasons for playing single coin.  The first is extended playing time. If your daily budget is $100 and you want to play all day, you're most likely going to have to stretch your money to make that happen. Playing single coin does this.  If you don't hit a royal flush, you got away with it. The second is limiting losses. If you are forced to play seriously bad games, low denomination single coin play is a tool you can use to protect your bankroll.  Two examples come to mind, a cruise ship or playing on a junket at the Beau Rivage in Biloxi.  Both have odds in the 95-96% range or worse.  In both of these situations you are trapped into games where nothing good can happen.  Even if you hit a royal flush, the game will quickly take back the money and you will lose.   Playing single coin slowly at the lowest denomination possible is the only way to control these situations outside of not going into the casino in the first place.At all other times, my current thinking is to play max coins.

[WhitneyReed]

Maybe the question can be framed another way...if I can play ugly deuces (98.9% ER) for full coin quarters or nsud deuces (99.89%) ER for dollars...but only one dollar at a time, which should I play (assuming no taking into account slot club)...fair question?


Before they took out the machines, I would play single coin $1 Loose Deuces ($1000 for quad deuces!) rather than 5 quarters because the pay table was better for $1s even though it was the same game on the same machine. I never did the math, but I also never hit the single card royal but hit the deuces several times. It's fun to stick a ticket into a redemption machine and have it spit out a cool grand.

[FAA]

It's fun to stick a ticket into a redemption machine and have it spit out a cool grand. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------It does sound like fun. However, a lot of cash to cram into a wallet. A lot to protect and preserve in a risky environment period. I present ID and get a check at the cage. Very tidy.