VP in 2017

[FloridaPhil]

I happen to be reading some of the old Fa La La La La.... La la la la vs. Shadowman posts and find it somewhat interesting even though I never interacted with either one of them.   It seems Fa La La La La.... La la la la believed he had figured out how to take advantage of streaks.  He also believed he could gain an advantage by limiting his play to "hot" machines.  Being a self thinking kind of guy, I've spent some years wondering if this is possible.There is no doubt streaks do occur, especially in wild card games.  The problem comes when trying to determine when they start, stop or even if you're in one.  If you believe you are in a good streak, bet bigger and hit a good jackpot, you believe you have found something worthwhile.  Eventually you find that your great discovery fails just as often as the rest.   If I move up in denomination, I don't expect to hit jackpots any more frequently than I did before.The idea of hot machines is popular.  I like to move machines as well.  I do it because it helps my attitude, not because I believe it helps my results.  I don't enjoy sitting at a dead machine waiting for things to turn around, so I move if I can.  The next machine might be just as dead, but I'm satisfied that I did my part.  In the past year we have been playing at a casino with a small handful of machines with significantly better odds.  This means I can't move.  Over this time I have found that hot machines do exist, but it just might be the dead one you are playing before you moved.I am not a big believer in video poker math predictions.  Anyone who thinks a positive game "owes" them a jackpot is fooling him/herself.  I know some players tout this strategy and claim to make huge bets based on what a calculator says.  Good for them, I don't.   I rely on math calculations to find and play the best games possible and to tell me the best play strategy.  Playing the best games with the best strategy has kept my long term results acceptable, especially if you count comps.Some members of this forum believe I dislike Bob Dancer.  That is totally false.  I think Bob Dancer is an excellent video poker player and businessman.   I am grateful for his advice and incite and especially grateful for his outstanding VPW software.   He lives, works and plays in the high stakes Vegas gambling world far from the VP environment most of us outside of the high limit room play in.  That doesn't mean his council should be ignored or minimized.   It means you should carefully consider his statements in light of your own personal situation before adopting them all as your own.I'm pretty optimistic about VP this coming year.   Casino gambling is growing across the country.  Competition is good for players.  The VP machines where we play are full and comps seem to be getting better.   We quit playing at those casinos that don't offer decent odds or have cut comps.  Thankfully, there always seems to be another casino opening to fill the void.  I hope your coming VP year is a good one.  God willing, we will be sitting there right next to you.   

[wildman49]

The idea of hot machines is popular.  I like to move machines as well.  I do it because it helps my attitude, not because I believe it helps my results.  I don't enjoy sitting at a dead machine waiting for things to turn around, so I move if I can.  The next machine might be just as dead, but I'm satisfied that I did my part. Over this time I have found that hot machines do exist, but it just might be the dead one you are playing before you moved. 













I also like to move around love to play on slow days and stay away on busy days. I'm sure moving around does not matter but hot and cold is there just need to be at the right place at the right time!

[pokerpokerpoker]

Recently I asked Rob what to do if I identified my machine as "hot" - quads are hitting, straights are filling in and even redraws are pairing up.

He said that only idiots move up in denomination when winning.

[alpax]

Recently I asked Rob what to do if I identified my machine as "hot" - quads are hitting, straights are filling in and even redraws are pairing up.

He said that only idiots move up in denomination when winning.

Chances are you will have already reached your win goal and have to leave the casino.

[DAAnMAAn]

Read Frank Kneeland piece on "faces in the clouds." In video poker for progressives. Basically it's human nature to try to find patterns even when there is no patterns, hence why we sometimes see faces in the clouds when of course, there isn't any. Same with VP machines. Sometimes your hitting, sometimes you aren't. And it's just part of the randomness of the rng chip. But if u can see patterns and take advantage of them, bless you. Casinos will not be scared I promise.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=pokerpokerpoker]He said that only idiots move up in denomination when winning.[/quote]This statement ignores the fact that it's just plain "fun" to move up when you are ahead.  The idea that everyone in the world wants to play VP optimally is idiotic. Hot machines exist because randomness says they will.  The hot machine you are playing right now can turn ice cold in less than a minute.  How many times have you seen someone lose all morning on a particular machine and leave.  Someone else sits down on the same machine and jackpots start falling out of the sky?Is moving around a better strategy than camping out on one machine all day?  As long as the game and the odds are the same, it doesn't matter.  Is betting bigger when you are ahead a better strategy than flat betting?  Not in the long run, but it's definitely more exciting.The mistake Mr. Fa La La La La.... La la la la made was assuming because something happened and repeated itself a few times he had discovered a strategy that was going to allow him to beat the casinos.  I've been there so many times my wife calls it the "strategy of the week".   There is no secret strategy.  Bob Dancer's strategy of playing only positive games perfectly is as good as it gets.  Does this mean I think everyone should play the way he does?  Of course not.  I play VP for excitement, recreation and to get out of the office for a day.  If I win...great.  If not...so what?   That's why I play quarters.  If I'm going to pay to play, I want it to cost as little as possible.

[olds442jetaway]

I have played millions of hands in deuces wild and do see a pattern of hot streaks especially when a machine is dealing 2 deuces. The bummer part of that is sometimes and really often times you end up just getting your bet back because on the draw you get nothing. If I see that pattern, I back way down too. The other pattern I tend to take advantage of on the deuces wild game is after a really long dud streak, I am more apt to hit a really big hand to make up for some or all of the duds. I see this over and over again. That is when my Martingale clone comes into play. My problem is I often start the clone too early. If I could force myself to wait say until there are say a dozen or so dud hands in a row, then start the clone, I would have been way ahead for 2016 instead of down 1.3%. I am still happy with that number and had a lot of fun last year getting there. With over a hundred free rooms and suites, unlimited free food, some decent gifts and free shows among other comps, that 1.3% loss even though big dollar wise, was still a bargain to me. Made some good friends along the way too.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=olds442jetaway]I am still happy with that number and had a lot of fun last year getting there.[/quote]That's what VP is about!    

[billryan]

Fa La La La La.... La la la la is a complete fraud and has been banned by just about every legitimate gambling forum.
Small wonder some here are defending him.
That is the real state of videopoker.com in 2017.
Hot streaks and martingales.

[billryan]

For those who don't follow such things, the person called Fa La La La La.... La la la la chose his pen name as a sort perceived slight to his polar opposite, Rob Dancer.
Claiming all sorts of higher degrees from various schools,Fa La La La La.... La la la la famously proclaimed he had discovered that all video poker machines are not random and that by observing one long enough, he could detect and exploit the patterns.
Perhaps Phil from Florida might consider a name change.
Phil Fa La La La La.... La la la la has a nice ring to it.

When I try to type his name, it isn't allowed. Interesting. Another example of The Man keeping him down, no doubt.