Is Dancerology based on 95% RNG?

[DaBurglar]

wtf is "Dancerology".....?    C'mon man, do we really need to add THAT term/word to our vocabulary?Fine, here is some "Burglarology" for ya......Bob Dancer actually let slip (i.e. he admitted) something that most people here either missed/overlooked or simply chose to ignore it after reading it.....In one of his posts where he was once again defending himself from the usual criticisms and attacks regarding exactly how.....HOW does he maintain this ongoing legacy of positive, profitable video poker play in view of (or despite) all the many things out there designed to thwart such a sustained record of success?   Casinos today are now so tilted against smart gamblers and video poker players, and we have discussed at length all the ways, and reasons, this is true....and yet Dancer still maintains and sustains his record.....Well, one time in a post he let slip this tidbit which I am quoting from memory but I am sure others here also recall it, and perhaps even know where and in what post it is buried:Bob Dancer (my summation of one of his Quotes):   "of course, in addition to doing all the things I prescribe and tell other players to do, all the tips and strategies and principles of play.....there are still a few INSIDER TIPS that I Myself do which I DO NOT share or tell or demonstrate to other players (including his 'paying clients/customers')..."Does anyone else here recall that?   I know I brought it up in a few other posts, but essentially here Bob is utilizing the age-old  "escape clause/disclaimer/weasel words"  of most companies, corporations, experts  etc.  who tout and promise and predict very favorable results if....IF people abide and follow what they say.....   well, DUH......what Bob is telling all of us here is that, as the ultimate video poker, and casino, insider he has access to, or is privy to, or can get away with things the rest of us cannot.....so who KNOWS what this entails or involves, but obviously it is the main reason why his alleged continued success is what it is, and the vast vast majority of players trying to emulate or follow him cannot.    Furthermore, the handful of other Insiders who Bob claims also duplicate his success or have a version of success similar to his own, obviously also know and take advantage of whatever these "INSIDER TIPS and Practices and secrets" actually are.....Is anyone really surprised or baffled by this??   This is nothing new under the sun!    Since history's beginning, it has always been the "insiders" who achieve and maintain success at the expense, or apart from, the greater masses or crowd.    Its the same today in business and similar endeavors involving money......the handful of elites or insiders at the top MAINTAIN their position by keeping these secrets to themselves and beguiling, distracting or otherwise confusing the masses with other theories, thoughts and red herrings.I am not advocating ANYTHING new or profound  or exceptional here folks......surely some of you can see how simple and clear this all actually is!!!!Bob Dancer (and a select few of fellow "insiders") simply knows a few things, has access to a few things, or can get away with a few things in casinos and with video poker play, that the rest of us CANNOT.

[billryan]

As far as I know,Bob doesn't have paid clients. He teaches his class for free.
People buy his books. People buy Stephen King books. Does King have paid clients?
He recommends a software package, he didn't write it or support it.
I'm a follower of his way of playing. Not a client or customer. Nor a penpal.
If you email him, he doesn't ask if you've bought his products before he answers.

[asteroid]

And Frank Kneeland. Adding to New's list,in a secondary way consider: Jean Scott.

[billryan]

And Frank Kneeland.[QUOTE=Tedlark] Adding to New's list,in a secondary way consider: Jean Scott.
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I don't know much about Mr Kneeland. Can you give me a short synopsis.About all I know is he pushes progressives.

[ukaserex]

I started to write a lot of stuff to explain this topic, to answer the question, but there's entirely too much for one post.

I will try to spend some time on this over this week and chime in my thoughts, that I hope will answer the question clearly and concisely.

After further thought - I don't think I'm qualified enough or smart enough to explain to where anyone might understand it clearly.

[asteroid]

He wrote the book "The Secret World of Poker Progressives" and managed successful progressive video poker teams. He also co-hosted Gambling With An Edge with Bob Dancer for a while. He is also one of the fastest vp players in terms of hands/hr (over a thousand if the machine allows it) for JOB. In short, an early adopter of AP VP and author of a highly informative vp book. [QUOTE=asteroid] And Frank Kneeland.[QUOTE=Tedlark] Adding to New's list,in a secondary way consider: Jean Scott.
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I don't know much about Mr Kneeland. Can you give me a short synopsis.About all I know is he pushes progressives.[/QUOTE]

[DaBurglar]

As far as I know,Bob doesn't have paid clients. He teaches his class for free.
People buy his books. People buy Stephen King books. Does King have paid clients?
He recommends a software package, he didn't write it or support it.
I'm a follower of his way of playing. Not a client or customer. Nor a penpal.
If you email him, he doesn't ask if you've bought his products before he answers.

You seem awfully certain of all this, and while I'm not certain of all the details one thing is clear from Bob's own words over the years, he does indeed make money off various aspects of his experience, knowledge and expertise in casinos and video poker.

Look, I'm neither pro or con here....Bob is fine in my book and yes I do indeed adhere to many of his principles, ideals and methods of play. But I see this ongoing running debate about him and what he does and whether it's all as he claims, and why some players cannot duplicate his results no matter what they do.....So I zeroed in and pointed out the one single clue or admission he has made over time that must be the reason why his results are always uniquely superior to even his closest follower:

His "insider knowledge and practices", WHATEVER they actually are or entail, clearly are his reason for success....

What do you think of that?

[billryan]

I disagree with it. Can't get much clearer.
As far as other players not being able to match his achievements, I've dined with some video poker pros who claim they can run circles around Bob and have methods that make them small fortunes. I was dubious until I was showed a stunningly simple way to double my monthly free play from a local casino.
I have no idea why you think Mr Dancer is the only person succeeding at his level. He most certainly isn't.

[rapidbison]

It's quite possible that he has not "played professionally" for many, many years....Instead, he plays for "research purposes"....a continuous tax write-off and personal fix....for his writing/merchandising businesses....With a savvy Vegas accountant, he can technically "win" in the taxable long-run....even when he loses......

[rapidbison]

Please view my update-edited "taxable denom" post..Thank you all...and good luck