Odds vs. Denomination

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=BillRyan]Accept that and stop your lies and we just might get along.  Are you a moron in real life or do you just play one here?
[/quote]I am happy to learn you are a real human being and not just a spokesperson for the gaming industry.   I am also happy to learn you are a veteran.  Thank you for your service.I don't know why you are on this forum, but I suspect you feel it's your role to defend math based VP strategies.  I've been on this forum a long time.   In my opinion, selling any method that gives someone the hope that an average player can can beat the casinos is ridiculous and dishonest.  I'm on this forum to state emphatically that "NO" mathematics can control random events.  A hundred Bill Ryans can play VP computer perfectly and most will lose.  That my friend is a fact.  VP is gambling plain and simple.  All things being equal, if one person wins and others don't it's chance that makes that happen.  Ascribing a VP win to superior intellect is where I draw the line.  Some could argue successfully that anyone who would act on this belief may be among the stupidest people on earth.I realize many members of this forum don't want to hear this.  They come here hoping to learn some VP "secrets" so they too can be winners.   A few people win long term playing VP.  A few people win the Lottery also.   I play video poker for recreation and I play as cheaply as possible.  I use math based strategies to reduce my cost and enjoy the game for what it is... a game.  If you want to continue to promote the idea that the casino will pay you to play VP, that's your business.   We should respect your opinions and you should respect the opinions of others.  If you will take your comments down a notch, I will be happy to reciprocate.   I don't enjoy being called a fool, stupid or a moron and I don't think you do either.

[FAA]

Common? LOL no.
I do prefer the casinos that do put their best games at the bar though.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Agreed. Borgata is exceptional in granting the captive bar audience high odds. Shrewd strategy. They rake in massive revenue and have decided to loosen up.

[billryan]

[quote=BillRyan]Accept that and stop your lies and we just might get along.  Are you a moron in real life or do you just play one here?
   I am happy to learn you are a real human being and not just a spokesperson for the gaming industry.   I am also happy to learn you are a veteran.  Thank you for your service.I don't know why you are on this forum, but I suspect you feel it's your role to defend math based VP strategies.  I've been on this forum a long time.   In my opinion, selling any method that gives someone the hope that an average player can can beat the casinos is ridiculous and dishonest.  I'm on this forum to state emphatically that "NO" mathematics can control random events.  A hundred Bill Ryans can play VP computer perfectly and most will lose.  That my friend is a fact.  VP is gambling plain and simple.  All things being equal, if one person wins and others don't it's chance that makes that happen.  Ascribing a VP win to superior intellect is where I draw the line.  Some could argue successfully that anyone who would act on this belief may be among the stupidest people on earth.I realize many members of this forum don't want to hear this.  They come here hoping to learn some VP "secrets" so they too can be winners.   A few people win long term playing VP.  A few people win the Lottery also.   I play video poker for recreation and I play as cheaply as possible.  I use math based strategies to reduce my cost and enjoy the game for what it is... a game.  If you want to continue to promote the idea that the casino will pay you to play VP, that's your business.   We should respect your opinions and you should respect the opinions of others.  If you will take your comments down a notch, I will be happy to reciprocate.   I don't enjoy being called a fool, stupid or a moron and I don't think you do either.

You can't even respond without falsely editing my posts. You take two sentences from entirely different threads and try and make it seem like something very different.
A perfect example of how low you will go to try and denigrate those who disagree with you.
Perhaps, just perhaps, if you don't want to be called a liar, then you should stop telling outright lies.
I don't claim to win all the time, nor have I ever promoted the fact that casinos will pay you to play enough to be profitable just for showing up. Just lies that you made up and chose to repeat.
What I do is show the foolishness in statements such as, and I paraphrase- I was happy playing halves for months but a bad week showed me I was wrong.
Everyone has bad weeks. Some people have bad months.
Video poker is a wild roller coaster ride, and just like every rollercoaster, the only ones who get badly hurt are the ones foolish enough to get off mid ride.
























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[FloridaPhil]

For some reason the Biloxi casinos seem to do this more often than most.  We always thought it was because drunk players lose more money.  The last time I was at the Beau Rivage the JB odds on the main floor were 7/5.  The bar odds were 8/5 plus a royal progressive.  Neither of these games are anything to write home about, but gaining a little more than 1% just to move your seat seems like a good move to me.   The better move would be to move out the door, which is exactly what we did.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=BillRyan]Video poker is a wild roller coaster ride, and just like every
rollercoaster, the only ones who get badly hurt are the ones foolish
enough to get off mid ride.[/quote]How losing more and more every day can add up to a win is beyond me.  Let me off at the next stop! 

[FAA]

More importantly, let me off a cold machine. Don't fight a cold machine. Abandon it!

[olds442jetaway]

Mohegan Sun has 9/6 job quarters at the bars. Unfortunately, they are in the worst condition with sticky buttons,ashes, spilled yucky crap on them etc. Luckily, they also have them on the floor. What they do though is mix up good and bad paytables throughout. I guess most casinos do this. You have to be careful.

[billryan]

It's fairly obvious Florida Phil Fa La La La La.... La la la la just doesn't understand applied math,otherwise he won't make the illogical statements he does.
Rather than admit his shortcoming, he continues to lash out at those who point out his mistaken beliefs.
The Fa La La La La.... La la la la may change, but the song remains the same.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=billryan]It's fairly obvious Florida Phil Fa La La La La.... La la la la just doesn't understand applied
math,otherwise he won't make the illogical statements he does.[/quote]So your theory is, if you're losing keep doing what you're doing?  First you empty your pockets  Then you hit the ATM.  Your rent money is gone and you start on your kids college fund and your rainy day money.  You borrow money from your parents and max out your credit cards.  When that's gone you mortgage your home, but you don't own one.  Your brain is telling you to stop, but the machine and the math owes you!!   Sad to say it happens all the time.Vegas is full of broke gamblers waiting for their luck to turn around.  Sorry to be so negative, but the dream you and your friends are selling ruins lives, destroys marriages and splits up families.  If you are going to gamble, do it for fun, do it cheap and stop before whatever you have spent your life building goes into a coin slot.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=olds442jetaway]Mohegan Sun has 9/6 job quarters at the bars. Unfortunately, they are in
the worst condition with sticky buttons,ashes, spilled yucky crap on
them etc. Luckily, they also have them on the floor. What they do though
is mix up good and bad paytables throughout. I guess most casinos do
this. You have to be careful.[/quote]It's the same all over.  I am totally convinced casinos use poor machine maintenance to increase their edge. What good is 9/6 jacks if every other button sticks and you have to fight your way through?  You are definitely right about the value of scouting all the machines.  I never would have found those new machines way in the back if I had not taken the time to walk all over the casino.  The last time we visited you at the Mohegan Sun, I remember how hard the good games were to find.  Luckily I had a friend in the business.