So far so good

[billryan]

It's not about luck, short term or long term. Being an Advantage Player is a lot of work, plus acquiring an awful lot of knowledge. None of you have the desire to do it, but I don't get why you so blatantly ignore the fact that thousands of people do do it. It's about getting an edge and exploiting it.
I honestly don't get all the venom from phil because I mentioned my guest at a baseball game.
Just out of curiosity, if someone said they wanted to be an actor, would you throw hissy fits about their choice? Anyone want to tell me the percentage of successful actors is higher than those who strive to take advantage of casino plays?
Someone who learns the insides of advantage play and wants to change careers can always get a job with a casino.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=billryan]I honestly don't get all the venom from phil because I mentioned my guest at a baseball game.[/quote]You seem to think it makes you some kind of big shot for hanging out with professional gamblers.  You talk about having dinner with them, going to ball games and drop names that are suppose to impress us.  Personally, I don't respect anyone who would spend their life this way.  It's their business if they do, but I don't have to celebrate them on this forum.  I realize many people consider my investing in the stock market as gambling.  I don't see it that way.  Investing in American business is good for all members of our society.  What societal good does a professional gambler contribute except to himself?  I can see how live poker players can excel through skill and knowledge.  With video poker, once you get past the hand strategy all you are doing is pushing buttons.  It's all up to luck after that.  You and your gambler buddies have convinced yourself that winning VP is all about math, intellect and skill.  Having an advantage in VP is a joke.  VP is all about chasing royals and if they don't appear when you play you are losers just like the rest of us.

[onemoretry]

What societal good does a professional gambler contribute except to himself? 
You could ask that question about many, many occupations. Examples that occur to me immediately are used car salesmen, telemarketers, health food hucksters, phony diet and exercise promoters, etc.

This most recent post is, unfortunately, yet another example of a completely "over the top" reaction.

[billryan]

Phil is a sad, sick old man.
Somehow he thinks writing about his vacations is newsworthy, but no one else can write about their adventures.
In his hatred, he again tells lies and half truths.
It's pretty simple, chum. If you don't like to read my post, then don't.
Name dropping? Name someone I've even mentioned?
Advantage play has nothing to do with sitting around waiting for a royal. This is the difference between an Advantage Player and a math challenged moron.
This month, a local casino is celebrating its 10th anniversary by giving every one $10 in free play every day plus it's usual promos and cash back. For me, this translates into roughly EV of $1400.
A wise man understands. A fool makes **** up.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=billryan]Name dropping? Name someone I've even mentioned?[/quote]Since Bill has been here he's plugged Dancer's classes, Jean Scott's books, the Wizzard of Odds website and bragged about spending the evening, eating dinner and going to ball games with APs.  I guess he thinks this somehow adds credibility to his statements.  This is understandable as he lives in a City where gamblers are heroes.   Vegas is second in violent crime and has some of the highest bankruptcy and suicide rates in the nation.  Is it any coincidence that it also has the most APs?Who benefits if players actually believe they can beat the casinos?   If that dream dies, the gaming industry stands to lose millions.  Does anyone actually believe casinos pay high profile VP personalities to teach players how to beat them out of money?  Do you think for a minute a casino would stand by and let any VP player hit them up time and time again so he could buy a house?   This website used to be a place where average players could talk about VP without the hype and BS.  It's turned into a free advertising vehicle for anyone and everyone that stands to make money directly from players.Frankly, I'm getting tired of bringing this issue up.  It even creeps into the Recreational Forum where we are now.  Let's stop the marketing and get back to VP.

[billryan]

[quote=billryan]Name dropping? Name someone I've even mentioned?Since Bill has been here he's plugged Dancer's classes, Jean Scott's books, the Wizzard of Odds website

Wow. I'm guilty of promoting classes designed to help people learn how to play video poker and books on how to get the most bang for your money.   Shoot me for not pushing your stupid $62.50 Royal strategy and believing in math instead.


......   Vegas is second in violent crime and has some of the highest bankruptcy and suicide rates in the nation.

An outright lie. Please show me where you came up with Las Vegas being the second most violent city in America?
I'll save you time and tell the class it's not.
Phil can have his own misguided opinions, but he is not allowed to make up his own facts.

I live in Henderson, the sixth safest city in the country, according to FBI statistics for 2015.
But why let the truth get in the way.


The rest is just more typical Phil****. No one wins, the system is rigged, math doesn't matter, No one wins, I'm a loser, you're a loser, winning is a myth.... blah blah blah.





























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[FAA]

And I thought the site's previous sparring partners had an intense feud.

[billryan]

I'm just sick of his lies.
Vegas isn't the second most violent city. Henderson, where I live,is one of the safest cities in the country, but Phil just tells more lies.
Nevada is seventh in bankruptcies but that is because of the housing crash, and the layoffs in the industry, not from gambling.
How do you have an honest debate with someone who pulls " facts" out of his ass?
There are literally thousands of people here who make a nice living here but Phil insists there aren't and that they are somehow scum even though they don't really exist.

[alpax]

And I thought the site's previous sparring partners had an intense feud.

I can appreciate that BR has been very persistent against FP every time misinformation is brought up for a whole year now.

Just about every discussion from FP starts or ends with indirect Mr. Dancer bashing.

Who else is a better teacher in Video Poker than Mr. Dancer?

Who else is a better source of gambling analysis than the Wizard of Odds?

Though I do not promote Mrs. Scott as much, many people are not aware of the comps they are entitled to. Mrs. Scott reaped the rewards.

The APs do not care what FP or anyone else for that matter thinks, they go about their business and they do not lack confidence like most people here think about cold machines. They are in it for the long run, they played the game and they beat it.

The job market is not all peaches and cream integrity wise like FP thinks it is. The person at the baseball game might not have been assured of a job had he finished school. Even if he was, he might even have to settle for paycheck to paycheck position with no upward mobility. The good BJ opportunities in Vegas just about dried up and he made the window of opportunity really count.

What he does with his whole life ahead of him remains to be seen and is none of our business. But to have housing situation taken care of at that age is something not many can claim.

[FloridaPhil]

See my proposal in the Strategy Section.