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alpax
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Stack The Deck Strategy Tidbits for Other Games

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Stack the Deck is leading the votes at the moment for the GOLD Member votes regarding the Weekly Contest for the week of December 18th. It was also the Daily Contest for December 11th that I missed out on at the time of writing this message.

Non-GOLD members will have a chance to play this exclusive game, but they will need to be aware of certain things beforehand prior to playing the contests.

Full Details about the DDB Variant is HERE. There will be no details with the other games as it takes tremendous effort to get done.

Use video poker software to help get a basic hold strategy for these peculiar pay schedules. I am almost sure no one will play optimally except for some players on DDB which I provided the opportunity.

Most of the scores will be dictated by the Stacked Deck opportunities which happen about 1 in 43 hands. When this happens, you as a player better make it count by making the right move.

Variant #1 Triple Double Bonus

Unique Pay Schedule: 12 Full House / 8 Flush / 6 Straight

Projected Payout: 97.975%
Overall Game Variance: 110.637

(a)     4 to the Royal, 5 additional cards added – Keep dealt Baby Royal and hold 4 to Royal otherwise
(b)     4 of a Kind, 5 additional cards added – Keep dealt premium kicker quads. Hold 4 of a Kind and hope for the 5 of a Kind.
(c)     Full House, 3 additional cards added – For all Aces, 2s, 3s, and 4s triplet full houses, break them and hold of the 1 kicker cards when available. Keep the dealt 5s thru Kings triplet full houses.
(d)     3 of Kind, 3 additional cards added - For all Aces, 2s, 3s, and 4s triplets hold of the 1 kicker cards when available

Variant #2 Double Bonus

Unique Pay Schedule: 13 Full House / 8 Flush / 6 Straight

Projected Payout: 98.308%
Overall Game Variance: 48.955

(a)     4 to the Royal, 5 additional cards added – Keep dealt Baby Royal and hold 4 to Royal otherwise
(b)     4 of a Kind, 5 additional cards added – No Strategy Changes
(c)     Full House, 5 additional cards added – Break all Full Houses.
(d)     3 of Kind, 5 additional cards added – No Strategy Changes

Variant #3 Bonus Poker

Unique Pay Schedule: 14 Full House / 8 Flush / 6 Straight / 4 3 of a Kind

Projected Payout: 98.789%
Overall Game Variance: 37.625

(a)     4 to the Royal, 5 additional cards added – Keep dealt Baby Royal and hold 4 to Royal otherwise
(b)     4 of a Kind, 5 additional cards added – No Strategy Changes
(c)     Full House, 5 additional cards added – Only break Aces triplet full houses to go for Quads/Quints. Otherwise, keep the full houses.

Triplet Aces (99.306)
Full House (70)

(d)     3 of Kind, 5 additional cards added – No Strategy Changes

Variant #4 Bonus Poker Deluxe

Unique Pay Schedule: 10 Full House / 6 Flush

Projected Payout: 98.408%
Overall Game Variance: 53.124

(a)     4 to the Royal, 5 additional cards added – Keep dealt Baby Royal and hold 4 to Royal otherwise
(b)     4 of a Kind, 5 additional cards added – No Strategy Changes
(c)     Full House, 5 additional cards added – Break all Full Houses and go for Quads/Quints.
(d)     3 of Kind, 5 additional cards added – No Strategy Changes

Variant #5 Jacks or Better

Unique Pay Schedule: 12 Full House / 11 Flush / 7 Straight / 4 3 of a Kind

Projected Payout: 98.554%
Overall Game Variance: 34.846

(a)     4 to the Royal, 5 additional cards added – Keep dealt Baby Royal and hold 4 to Royal otherwise

(b)     4 of a Kind, 5 additional cards added – No Strategy Changes

(c)     Full House, 5 additional cards added – Only break Aces, 2s, 3s, 4s triplet full houses to go for Quads/Quints. Otherwise, keep the full houses.

Triplet Aces (88.899)
Triplet 2s, 3s, 4s (61.75)
Full House (60)

(d)     3 of Kind, 5 additional cards added – No Strategy Changes

Bonus Frequencies for Deuces Wild Games

Deuces Wild Variants Bonus triggers are different than other games.

4 to Royal Flush - 940 Combinations - 1 in 2764.851
2 Deuces - 103776 Combinations - 1 in 25.044
3 Deuces - 4512 Combinations - 1 in 576.011
4 Deuces - 48 Combinations - 1 in 54145

Cumulative Bonus Outcomes - 109276 Combinations - 1 in 23.783

Variant #6 Deuces Wild

Unique Pay Schedule: 36 Wild Royal / 14 5 of a Kind / 12 Straight Flush

Projected Payout: 98.678%
Overall Game Variance: 73.719

Warning: Deuces Wild ones are little more complex than other games

(a)     4 to the Royal, 5 additional cards added:

1.     Keep Dealt Baby Royal. Otherwise hold 4 to the Royal.
2.     Hold 4 the Royal when dealt Wild Royal with 1 Deuce (toss that Deuce away!). A stacked deck increases the EV of 4 to the Royal to over 474 Credits which is far more than the Wild Royal at 180 Credits

(b)     4 Deuces, 4 additional cards added – No Strategy Changes
(c)     3 Deuces, 4 additional cards added – Just hold the 3 Deuces every time

(d)     2 Deuces, 4 additional cards added – Hold these in ranks

1.     Dealt Wild Royal Flush (180)
2.     Dealt 5 of a Kind (70)
3.     Dealt Straight Flush (60)
4.     Two Deuces (52 to 53 Average Expected Credits)

Variant #7 Bonus Deuces Wild

Unique Pay Schedule: 30 Wild Royal / 13 Straight Flush / 4 4 of A Kind / 3 Full House / 3 Flush

Projected Payout: 98.692%
Overall Game Variance: 83.0174

Warning: Deuces Wild ones are little more complex than other games

Warning #2: Typical Bonus Deuces Wild strategy involves holding an Ace if available when 2 or 3 Deuces are dealt. This strategy is neglected in Stack The Deck Poker.

(a)     4 to the Royal, 5 additional cards added:

1.     Keep Dealt Baby Royal. Otherwise hold 4 to the Royal.
2.     Hold 4 the Royal when dealt Wild Royal with 1 Deuce (toss that Deuce away!). A stacked deck increases the EV of 4 to the Royal to over 474 Credits which is far more than the Wild Royal at 180 Credits

(b)     4 Deuces, 4 additional cards added – No Strategy Changes. A courteous reminder to hold the Ace kicker if you are dealt one for 2000 Credits. 4 Deuces is worth 1313.725 Credits.

(c)     3 Deuces, 4 additional cards added – Hold dealt 5 of a Kind Aces with 3 Deuces for 400 Credits, otherwise just hold 3 Deuces which is worth 258.675 Credits.

(d)     2 Deuces, 4 additional cards added – Hold these in ranks

1.     Dealt 5 Aces (400)
2.     Dealt 5 3s, 4s, 5s (200)
3.     Dealt Wild Royal (150)
4.     Dealt 5 6s thru Kings (100)
5.     Two Deuces with Two Aces (79.6)
6.     Dealt Straight Flush (65)
7.     Two Deuces alone at (55.29 to 56.728 EV)

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Post by alpax »

This was posted yesterday, but I regret to say it was sloppy and incorrect because I did not adjust the calculations of having 5 extra cards instead of 3 cards. Did Triple Double Bonus as the first game outside of DDB which is the only game with 3 cards, and did not calculate it back to 5 for other games which is a BIG error.

I believe I've corrected all the issues. TDB will only be the best game in a contest format, but not at the live casino.

Good luck to everyone who plays this game!

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Post by pokerpokerpoker »

I played the contest with my allotted 8 sessions. 6 were bad losers a 2 were big winners.

Unfortunately, like many of the new games, I couldn't see myself playing this game for any kind of stakes above nickels. The feature, at a frequency of 1 in 43, just doesn't come up often enough to "stay in the game". Assuming triple play, those extra 6 credits a game really adds up quickly. But at nickels the paytables will most certainly be lousy.

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Post by alpax »

One critical thing missing. The odds of the Bonus trigger for Deuces Wild variants.

4 to Royal Flush - 940 Combinations - 1 in 2764.851
2 Deuces - 103776 Combinations - 1 in 25.044
3 Deuces - 4512 Combinations - 1 in 576.011
4 Deuces - 48 Combinations - 1 in 54145

Total - 109276 Combinations - 1 in 23.783

Deuces Wild mode will generate the Stacked Deck trigger almost twice as often. But aside from the 4 or 5 Deuces outcome, the payout will not be exciting as the other games.

I played the contest with my allotted 8 sessions. 6 were bad losers a 2 were big winners.

Unfortunately, like many of the new games, I couldn't see myself playing this game for any kind of stakes above nickels. The feature, at a frequency of 1 in 43, just doesn't come up often enough to "stay in the game". Assuming triple play, those extra 6 credits a game really adds up quickly. But at nickels the paytables will most certainly be lousy.

I had a feeling that was the type of experience players will go through from this game.

Variance works both ways. A player can be in the Bonus situation early and win a massive amount of credits. They will continue playing and the dry streaks will really chip into the balance.

I do think this game also plays out like a video slot. Slot players are willing to put up 50+ lousy spins until they get that one Bonus Round trigger. The Bonus Round may be great or maybe a dud, but players are willing to play until they get that chance. So it may not be that be that bad at all.

I would not be too surprised if there will be more pay schedule options available later on with downgraded Full House and/or Flush payouts. Casino operators are generally more knowledgeable about VP payouts than in the past. I think more of these new games are 98% as a starting point and work its way down.

These set of payouts would be considered decent in terms of the Vegas strip conditions.

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