9/6 job 8/5 BP bankroll

[JoB Hero]

Only 3 days until my Laughlin trip. Any ideas of how much bankroll is needed for 4 straight days of playing job/bp only? Dollars only

[olds442jetaway]

If you are playing 5 bucks a hand....a lot. Just as a guess and from experience, I would guess ten grand. If you have a quadless or nearly quadless session combined with few full houses and no Royals, it could easily cost 5k for that 8 hour session of 4,000 hands or so. That hopefully won't happen, but it has happened to me. Best of luck and have a great and successful trip. Edited to add....I really think 20k would be safer, but I hate to see anybody have to risk that kind of money unless losing it all won't hurt at all and its not needed for other things.

[BobDancer]

The numbers in the previous post are WAY off.Playing for four days isn't useful information. You need to estimate the number of hands you're going to play. I arbitrarily selected 10,000 hands --- which would be 4 or so hours a day for four days. If you are going to play more, it'll cost more. If you're going to play less, it'll cost less.Using the bankroll calculator in Video Poker for Winners, I first set up how many times you would lose $5,000 in 10,000 hands of $1 9/6 JoB. The answer was 0% of the time.I then set up the same parameters with a bankroll of $3,000, and the answer came out 3.53%. which means 1 time in 28. Going broke 1 time in 28 is more than enough bankroll for most people.If you're playing 8/5 Bonus, which is a MUCH lesser game, your bankroll requirements will be higher. With a $3,000 bankroll, you're going to go broke 8.53% of the time, which is one time in 11.7 times.The software is inexpensive and there is valuable information there. (It works on PCs only --- not Apple products or tablets.) If you want to figure it out with a $2,000 bankroll or $10,000 bankroll or any number of hands played, the information is right there.The software assumes you're playing perfectly. If you make a lot of mistakes, then you're going to need to make adjustments. If you think you play at the 99% accuracy level, use 8/6 JoB as a first approximation of your results.i wish you well

[JoB Hero]

Thank you both so much for the great replies, I will look into that software the deeper I get into vp. For hours of play I’m hoping it’s more 6-8 hours a day.. I’ve posted on the forums that I’m still hunting for my first royal. The plan is to put the hours in on this trip to finally see one, my bankroll is 6,000$.. unfortunately reports have said harrahs blackjack is 6/5... I’ll be sticking to vp

[olds442jetaway]

    I don't care what books or programs say. If you play job for long sessions at 5 bucks a hand and don't get Royals, few if any quads, and full houses are very thin, you will lose a lot. Been there and done that and with nearly perfect play.
    I also bet the programs and charts too would say that 3 600k royalless streaks in just a few years is next to impossible too. Been there and done that too. Its been posted about several times. More that I would like to admit. That said, you could have an incredibly lucky streak too. I've seen players hit a Royal while waiting just a few minutes to get paid. I have another vp buddy who a few years ago hit 4 royals in one session of 8 hours. He was playing 9/6 job quarters. Single line too. Never varies his bets and plays perfectly. I've also hit quad aces 5 times in an hours time on bonus poker. These situations are extremely rare, but they do happen. Again...best of luck. I guess you could set up a marker ahead of time just in case. Not saying to do it, but its an option.

     Edited to add.....I stand corrected on part of my post. I meant to say if you lost 3 of the 4 days not just one day and didn't get any Royals or quads playing 4,000 hands a day at 5 bucks a hand you would lose about 4800 total for the 3 days of the 4, but that would assume everything else came in percentage wise about what it should. Bottom line is you in round numbers give up about 2 percent when you don't hit royals and again in round numbers another 6 percent when you don't hit quads. So for 3 days that would be 60,000 in coin in....lose 8 percent or 4800 bucks. That situation would be extremely rare, but it did happen to me many years ago. The next time I went to the casino however, which was a few days after that, I hit a straight flush and the next hand was a Royal. That is just how video poker is. One just never knows. So play the best paytable you can find, play as perfectly as you can and hope for the best, but by all means have fun.

     Edited to add just a bit more after reading Bob's example. I distinctly remember about 9 years ago when I was a bit younger playing a very long session of at least twelve hours and it was right around ten k hands or so. I lost 4,000 bucks on 9/6 dollar job in that time and after that experience said I would never do that again. At that time my bankroll was 5,000 bucks. A few days before, I had hit a dealt Royal at Foxwoods on quarters which paid 5k for the 6's or better Double Down Stud game. Feeling my oats, I said...hmmm...let me play dollars, but play a game thats easy on the budget like job usually is. I also remember playing too fast and making some costly mistakes even blowing one quad by holding only 3 of the 4 dealt eights. Boy was I wrong at least that time. I have never lost 4k in one session since then, but unfortunately have lost 3k a few times. Like I posted to FAA a few days ago.....may the force be with you.....

[FAA]

Easy on the budget. Famous last words. Great pay table is often rendered moot when losing 8-10% of your coin in. That's the yardstick. Such a good metric that I have ignored. Just what percentage of coin in did I actually lose today? Up to 4%, it's a tolerable day.

[Waiting4RF]

I remember hearing that in JOB you are always losing until you hit the royal. So, if you don't hit the royal in 4 days, your money will be gone. Good luck and get the Royal(s)!

[FAA]

You can almost break even with well timed quads. Or you can hit a quad or two and quit. I generally win on very low coin in. Once the coin in spikes, the losing gears are greased. Volume or cash. It seems like this is the choice presented.

[DaBurglar]

Only 3 days until my Laughlin trip. Any ideas of how much bankroll is needed for 4 straight days of playing job/bp only? Dollars only

Bob's post mentions the need to know how many hands you intend, or want, to play in the course of a typical day. This is the most important element in determining bankroll needs for a 4day trip. Bob mentioned 10k hands a day being about four hours of play.... that's a really fast play rate! Even I don't go that high or fast! But you need to determine asap what your rate of play needs to be to play four days, how long each days sessions will be, when you plan to eat and other activities, and rest as well!

If I were you, I'd just take it one day at a time and make adjustments as needed, depending on how things are going. The good news is you are playing in Nevada where the best, most stable and fair VP exists! Not like playing in AC or on native American lands...

Olds, you had three streaks of over 600k hands with no royals?!?! Unreal....this was at foxwoods??? Now that deserves at least some investigation!

[pouchmouth]

10k total = 625 hrly