CS 2018

[FloridaPhil]

Does it matter to the average player if someone else makes millions playing VP? Not really. The only real use of making this information public is marketing. Why else would anyone reveal it? Personally, I believe a few professional VP players do well. I also think their VP play is nothing like the average player thinks it is.

Back to our original topic. I have shown what everyone already knew, but wouldn't say. Playing 96% video poker games is cheaper to play the cheaper and slower you do it. The cheapest way to play these games is to not play them. If you are going to play them, playing single coin as cheap as possible will save you money.

There is really not much more to say about 96% VP games. I don't find the need to use CS much these days because I play close to 99% games and the comps they give me help make up the difference. I don't make money playing VP long term, but I don't lose much either.

[Eduardo]

I have shown what everyone already knew, but wouldn't say.

Yes, everyone already knew this. The idea that people "wouldn't say it" is nonsense. You have been told this many times by everyone from Bob Dancer to myself to countless others.

Playing 96% video poker games is cheaper to play the cheaper and slower you do it. The cheapest way to play these games is to not play them. If you are going to play them, playing single coin as cheap as possible will save you money.

I'm glad you finally understand this, after repeating it so many times. So please let this be the last time you argue the point with... whatever imaginary person you are arguing with.

[billryan]

Little Jack Horner
Sat in a corner
Eating his Christmas pie.
He put in his thumb,
Pulled out a plum
And said what a good boy I am.

[FloridaPhil]

I have shown what everyone already knew, but wouldn't say.

Yes, everyone already knew this. The idea that people "wouldn't say it" is nonsense. You have been told this many times by everyone from Bob Dancer to myself to countless others.

You may be surprised to know how many people don't know this. Walk into any Southeast casino and check the VP odds. Then look around and see how many players are playing max coins on 96% games. Walk into the high limit room and watch someone dump thousands into the same game. You can watch this insanity all day in Biloxi. Paying for a royal flush is not winning anything, it's just getting some of your money back. It's an annuity with the casino as the beneficiary.

[Eduardo]

That doesn't mean they don't know it's the cheapest way to play the game. It means they are willing to risk it for the chance at higher paying jackpots.

This is a basic question everyone answers when they decide if they want to play pennies, nickles, quarters, dollars, etc.

It is a question common to any casino game, not just video poker.

Play small, win and lose small.

There is no secret to it and nobody is hiding it.

[markinca]

The secret is to pay your taxes in quarters instead of dollars.

[billryan]

Play by Phil's methods and you don't have to worry about paying taxes.

[FloridaPhil]

Play by Phil's methods and you don't have to worry about paying taxes.

That should be the quote of the day.

Is there anything wrong with playing small if it means you can play VP and give less money to the casino? Every VP player in America is not a mathematical wizard. They don't move cross country just so they can gamble 100% games either. You assume average players know this stuff. 90% of them don't. All they read is they should play positive games or not play at all. There aren't any where they play. What happens next? I'll tell you.

They think they can beat the casino because some book says so. They think all they have to do is play 100% perfect. They believe a royal flush always pops out of the machine on time. They think they must continue to pump money in these games until the math bankrupts them. Heaven help them if they read an article saying playing $5 games is profitable.

You can make fun of my posts if you want. You can act like none of this happens. You can idolize your gambling heroes and think they have life all figured out. All I am trying to do is help the average small time video poker player keep more of their money. I care about those players. Our experts don't. Instead of thanking them for paying my bills, I actually give them alternatives. I guess that makes me a bad guy in your eyes? So be it.

[billryan]

It's your inability to accept basic facts that makes you "the bad guy". It's your repeating lies, even when told they are lies that makes you a liar.
Everyone gets it. You read a few books, disregarded the most important parts, failed miserably and now are on a crusade to disparage those who actually understood that which you clearly don't.
What ridiculous challenges will you issue today?

[markinca]

Everyone gets it. You read a few books, disregarded the most important parts, failed miserably and now are on a crusade to disparage those who actually understood that which you clearly don't.

This is the most hilariously concise summary of the entirely of Phil's posts on this forum.