3/25/2018 play

[FAA]

Now you tell me! I will certainly stay for ten to twenty minutes after a future SF now that I know of at least two cases of future success. I've been running like a scared rabbit. Maybe I could continue to pursue the largest carrot of all.

[Jstark]

Getting a straight flush is no indication that a royal is soon to follow.

[onemoretry]

Getting a straight flush is no indication that a royal is soon to follow. Or, any other premium hand for that matter. What's happened has no bearing on what's in the future. Thank you for inserting a spark of reality into the discussion.

[FloridaPhil]

Don't shoot the messenger.  I'm just reporting what has happened when I play.  An intelligent question to ask me is if I ever remember a time when I hit a straight flush and nothing good happened after that?  Of course.   There is NO WAY to predict what cards will be dealt to you in the future.   If you believe you can, I wish you luck. You'll need it.  

[billryan]

Now you tell me! I will certainly stay for ten to twenty minutes after a future SF now that I know of at least two cases of future success. I've been running like a scared rabbit. Maybe I could continue to pursue the largest carrot of all.

You personally have seen hundreds of times when a Royal didn't follow one but based on a nonsensical claim you will now give the casino even more of your money.
Brilliant.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=billryan]You personally have seen hundreds of times when a Royal didn't follow
one but based on a nonsensical claim you will now give the casino even
more of your money.  Brilliant.
[/quote]I don't change my strategy, leave the casino, ring a bell or call my mom based on if I hit a straight flush or not.  What happens happens...   

[New2vp]

Hey, JStark and OMT! I've often noticed that when I hit a straight flush (instead of a zero-win hand) on single line that my overall results are 245 more coins in my pocket at the end of the day! The overall results are even better on a dealt straight flush on a multi-play machine!!

But I will toss out another item that is in line with the original thoughts. When recreational players are playing until they run out of their daily bankroll, they DO have a slightly better chance at getting a second premium hand after hitting a big hand like a straight flush. That is because they are able to play longer since they do in fact have a few more coins to play with before they go BUST for the day. Clearly, if you play more hands, you have a higher probability of getting more premium hits.

And since straight flushes are rarer than quads, it may be that some players will have fond memories of experiences after a SF hit a couple times in a row ... and base their wonderment on those memories. Yes, it is more realistic to base your predictions on math, but not everyone's brain works in that fashion.

So, FAA, if you want to base your play on anecdotal evidence of a couple frequent posters, good luck to you. If you like going home for the day with money in your pocket more often, then quitting while you are ahead works too. If you do continue to play after a SF hit and have a good experience, you can post that here. And maybe some will think that this is even MORE evidence that a straight flush is an oracle of great things to come. Who really understands how that pesky RNG generates uniformly distributed random numbers that somehow convert to card ranks and suits anyway? Or how can we be sure that a pseudo-random number generator really outputs a series of fractions that mimic uncorrelated and independent random numbers? What does that mean anyway? Is it easier to posit that the RNG might sense your endorphins? I guess you should remember to smile widely after a good hand so the RNG knows it is supposed to pump out a premium hand in the near future. It couldn't hurt. I wonder if you could fool it and just pretend that you got a big hand?? Whatever floats your boat while sailing on non-mathematical currents with metaphorical waves in the water.

What some need to know here is ...

wait for it ...

"Is it better to switch machines after hitting the SF? Or should you stay with the machine that dealt the first big hand?" Let's run an experiment based on the memories of vp.com frequent fliers! So many questions to ponder when you dismiss the assumption that most casinos follow the law and use a technique that bases card probabilities on what would be seen when dealing from a well-shuffled deck of cards!!

Just to throw in another curve (ok, this is really a softly-tossed lob), you have a better chance of hitting multiple royals in a single sitting, especially on single line, if you continue to play after hitting the first one! The only time I hit multiple royals within the same hour at a casino was a time that I decided to continue playing after hitting the first one. Go figure!!

Another quote from Captain Obvious: When playing single line you cannot get multiple big hands unless you get the first one and continue to play.

Good luck to all of you, regardless of whether this post assaults your senses, if it confirms what you already knew, or if reading this was just a diversion to pass the time.

[FloridaPhil]

[quote=new2VP] When recreational players are playing until they run out of their daily
bankroll, they DO have a slightly better chance at getting a second
premium hand after hitting a big hand like a straight flush.[/quote]I do not continue to play until I run out of money.   I play low variance VP only (JB, Bonus and DW).  I go to the casino with a predetermined amount (2,000 coins).   I set a low cash out limit and stick to it.   When all my money is in white tickets, I leave.   Since adopting this strategy late last year, I have come home even or with a profit over 70% of the time.   I have yet to lose over 50% of my session bankroll in a single day's play.   This strategy has changed my entire attitude on VP.   If I walk out with empty pockets, it's my own fault.  Works for me...

[FAA]

I'm just talking through my fedora. I couldn't follow through. Way too bitter and beaten to hang around after 250 credits in a blink.

[FAA]

For Mr. LV's information, I've never stayed or seen anyone stay post SF/RF. I personally am not wired to keep feeding the meter.