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Eduardo
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Re: Chips

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DaBurglar wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:05 am
Here, within or alongside the actual game programs is where the casino can (if it so desires, which technically it is not supposed to) instruct the programs to generate more (or less) game results that favor either the player or house depending on what the casino wants to do at that period in time. This is a simple process that probably involves some type of user defined code or table into which the casino can input whatever value or data it needs to serve its purpose....a server allows you to manage your system at the most subtle, minute level of detail so it's entirely possible such a thing can occur.
Wow, you really sound like you know how secure servers work in a regulated environment. :wacko:

Sorry, but what a COMPLETE LOAD OF BULL.

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Post by billryan »

In Nevada, normal video poker games are dealt five cards, and the remaining cards are shuffled and effected by your timing hitting the draw button.

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Post by olds442jetaway »

Hmmm...5 or 10, I don't know. I do know this and I can't explain it. I lose more money on 9/6 job than any other game. I've just about quit playing it. Although I have played about ten million lifetime hands in the casinos, for me the huge change came about as I already posted in August of 2011. I keep track of the dud streaks among other things. I don't play much vp on this site due to the freezes, ads, etc. , but I do play a fair amount of Wolf vp for fun and practice. The dud streaks in the casinos dwarf any dud streaks on Wolf vp. Has anyone seen dud streaks in job of between 35 and 48 hands without even getting 2 pair or better. I have many times in the casino. I also on wolf vp have never seen Royalless streaks of over 600k hands. I have seen three and all in the same casino. I'm still not saying the machines are rigged. I'm just reporting my observations from actual play. In Ct. the slot returns over the years are in the 90 percent range roughly. Since vp is considered a slot for reporting purposes, it wouldn't surprise me if in fact, the games by whatever method paid out less than the paytables say they should be. I asked upper management if they will ever separate out vp play for reporting purposes from slots and they said no because vp is a slot.

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Post by Carcounter »

Like I said, maybe I'm lucky to have weathered the post recession AC storm. i don't know, but I have heard many complaints from regular players about unusually cold machines.

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Post by DaBurglar »

Eduardo wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:13 pm
DaBurglar wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:05 am
Here, within or alongside the actual game programs is where the casino can (if it so desires, which technically it is not supposed to) instruct the programs to generate more (or less) game results that favor either the player or house depending on what the casino wants to do at that period in time. This is a simple process that probably involves some type of user defined code or table into which the casino can input whatever value or data it needs to serve its purpose....a server allows you to manage your system at the most subtle, minute level of detail so it's entirely possible such a thing can occur.
Wow, you really sound like you know how secure servers work in a regulated environment. :wacko:

Sorry, but what a COMPLETE LOAD OF BULL.
Oh ok....thanks for setting me straight. since you do REALLY sound like you know how it all works in AC, please lay it out for me in as much detail as possible so as to prevent me from ever forming such erroneous views again. Thanks in advance....I look forward to your response.

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Post by Tedlark »

Not that I have to rush to Eduardo's defense but I was under the impression that DaBurglar was speaking of ALL servers controlling video poker machines and not just those located in Atlantic City.

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Post by DaBurglar »

Tedlark wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:20 pm
Not that I have to rush to Eduardo's defense but I was under the impression that DaBurglar was speaking of ALL servers controlling video poker machines and not just those located in Atlantic City.
I cannot believe I have to continue to point this out.....I am not taking issue or drawing attention to SERVERS in general or VP played or based on servers, nor the security (or lack of it) accompanying their activity in general....I am talking SPECIFICALLY about AC video poker and AC's disconcerting Gaming Control Oversight (both the entity and it's practices & resources, etc.) The fact that the 3 CET properties in AC are on a server, and have shown particularly strange and horrific results since they converted to servers is central to my views and feelings about AC.

I have said repeatedly that I do not have any similar concerns about such places as Vegas or Reno, or even the Connecticut Native American Casinos.

But servers themselves DO allow a whole different level of control and ability for casinos to manage and administer their games, many of which could be used for nefarious purposes. The issue really is with PEOPLE, and in AC's case, it is not the server(s) itself at CET casinos but, obviously, the PEOPLE running and administering them (and of course, the top echelon decision makers and executives who decide on practice and policy....) Computer and system security, and the integrity of casinos as a whole, is only as good as the people running it, AND the people inspecting and overseeing THOSE people, etc.

The bottom line is the bottom line....what those of us who play in AC actually see for results clearly...CLEARLY indicate something is different, or "off" with the VP games, especially at the CET properties....you start with that, and then factor in all the related points concerning the Oversight (or lack of it), and AC's climate of economic difficulty and its history of shadiness and incompetence going back decades.....

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Post by Tedlark »

On 2/14/18 you wrote a post alluding to CET manipulating their servers because of their corporate bankruptcy.

On 10/10/17 you wrote: Wrong....casinos which now operate on Servers can indeed literally in very little time update, change or modify a few, some or ALL of their inventory of games! ---This post had no mention of AC.

On 9/1/15 you wrote: The computers and servers that make up today's games have all been fine tuned and tweaked (within stated gaming regs mind you) to make it as unlikely as possible for most players to have a positive cash flow session of any significance (by that I mean where a player has played at least several hours and is "up" something like a hundred bucks or more....)

On 8/25/13 you wrote: there is a slew of proxy servers and other workarounds now being cooked up that will allow people in various states where gambling is still illegal to gamble online in states where it IS legal....and so help me if our Federal government and /or congress comes up with or incites a federal agency to "go after" such citizens, I'm defecting to North Korea!

The above examples made no mention of Atlantic City.

Just a few examples of you talking about servers industry wide.

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