Betting system question

[stevel96a1]

After weeks of testing all of them fail. The two that i like are the parlay and flat bet. I was watching youtube and this guy would test 7 shoes of blackjack using all systems and each test revealed flat bet did the best or least damaging to the bankrolls is this same case with video poker?

[FloridaPhil]

After weeks of testing all of them fail. The two that i like are the parlay and flat bet. I was watching youtube and this guy would test 7 shoes of blackjack using all systems and each test revealed flat bet did the best or least damaging to the bankrolls is this same case with video poker?

I think I have tried practically every VP betting strategy you can think of, some you may not have thought of yet. Flat betting the best games you can find as perfect as you can beats all other bet switching strategies hands down. You can switch bets, switch games, change your underwear or do anything you want to do and this will hold up. Is this always the most fun? No, it's not. If all the fun you get out of playing VP is concentrated in your profit or loss, flat betting is the way to go.

[Eduardo]

What do you mean by "fail?"

I don't see any advantage to flat betting vs changing things up.

Play dollars on single line, switch to quarters on multi-line, etc... play as you see fit within your bankroll. I frequently switch between dollars and quarters depending on how long I want to play a session for instance.

What is the goal here?

[Gronbog]

Players who use betting systems on negative games do worse than those who flat bet simply because the systems require them to raise their bets sometimes. Larger bets + negative game = worse results.

[stevel96a1]

i think Gronbog is right

[stevel96a1]

i think the martin gale would be the winner if i had 20 bankrolls and table min went to maybe 500+

if it broke 5 standard devations the casino would be cheating or it wouldnt be fair video poker

[FloridaPhil]

I play next to a player who plays the same game at the same bet all the time. That game is 98.9% deuces wild. She plays slow and accurate. She uses Dan Paymar's optimal play strategy with a small change that costs her 3-4 cents a hand. That change has paid her four $1,000 royals so far.

She plays like a machine and never varies her bet. If she's losing, she finds something else to do. She has the discipline of David and the wisdom of Solomon. All joking aside, she's pretty good. Even though the games she plays are negative, she plays them for practically nothing.

I, on the other hand, am always playing for the big score. I use all kinds of denomination switching and bet varying schemes. I take pot shots and dally around the high limit room. In other words, I stink as a VP player. I also lose a lot of money compared to the pitifully small amount she leaves at the casino.

It's hard for me to play like her. I get bored playing one game all the time. I crave excitement and it costs me. Successful video poker players play like computers. I am trying to be more like her, but it's a struggle.

You can play like her or me. It's your choice. Eventually you will come to the same conclusion that I did last fall. Her way is better. Good Luck!

[tech58]

That "small change" would be suited ace ten?

[FloridaPhil]

That "small change" would be suited ace ten?

Yes. When playing 98.9% deuces wild, the math based strategy says not to hold A-10, A-K, A-J & A-Q suited non deuce hands. She goes against the math and holds them. Playing max coin quarters, VPW software shows the cost of this error is 3-4 cents a hand. She gets a lot more wild royals with this modification and has hit four $1,000 royals. I have hit two using it myself. When you are playing quarters, the cost is minimal. With wild cards in the game, you have a better chance of making hay out of nothing. If I was playing $5 a coin, I would stay with the math myself.

[FloridaPhil]

An error is not an error if you made a conscience decision to risk paying for a certain result. As a quarter player, my wife plays for the thrill of hitting a $1,000 royal flush. A $250 quad deuce here or there keeps her in the game, it's not going to increase her pulse all that much. She is aware the math says playing this way could cost her 3-4 cents on these hands. She is willing to pay to take that chance and so far it's worked in her favor. If the cost was 3-4 dollars or more a hand, the decision would be more difficult.