Betting system question

[Tedlark]

A math error is still a math error. It just so happens that the result was the exception and not the rule.

[FloridaPhil]

A math error is still a math error. It just so happens that the result was the exception and not the rule.

Not necessarily. I buy my cars based on their horsepower. You may buy your cars based on gas mileage, price, reliability or how they make you feel when you drive them. I have math that shows the best horsepower car buy for my money. You may have math that shows the best car based on your criteria. Our goals and expectations are different. Our answers are as well.

[markinca]

An error is not an error if you made a conscience decision to risk paying for a certain result.

Um, this is literally the definition of results-oriented thinking. An error is absolutely an error in something that has an objective best play like video poker.

If I plow $1,000 a week into playing the lotto, is this a good decision? No, it is not. If I end up winning the multi-million dollar jackpot, that doesn't change the fact that that initial decision was poor.

Your car analogy, as usual, is complete nonsense. There are multiple factors that go into buying an automobile, and there is no such thing as an objectively 'best' vehicle.

I can't believe I even have to be saying this. You have so many flaws in your thinking that it's hard to believe you actually believe them yourself.

[FAA]

I'd call it an error that you hold your nose with your free hand while making. But it still goes down in the books as an error. Just one within your comfort zone. Let's not kid ourselves.

[case]

An error is not an error if you made a conscience decision to risk paying for a certain result.

If I plow $1,000 a week into playing the lotto, is this a good decision? No, it is not. If I end up winning the multi-million dollar jackpot, that doesn't change the fact that that initial decision was poor.

Same with hitting a royal flush. If you hold the ace-10 and hit a royal you got lucky but still made a poor decision.

[FloridaPhil]

Same with hitting a royal flush. If you hold the ace-10 and hit a royal you got lucky but still made a poor decision.

This is an amazing statement. I'll ask her to give the money back and see what she says.

If you desire to hit more royal flush jackpots, you play so you do and you hit them, how can this be a poor decision? Anyone who says this is making an argument without thinking this through or just talking to have something to say.

Profit is not the all encompassing motive for all video poker players. If you believe it is, then you make everyone who does not profit from VP a loser. Players play video poker because they enjoy they experience of VP, whatever that means to them.

It's fun to argue, but it doesn't make anyone a better video poker player. The be better, you first have to know what "better" means to you. If better means profitable, you use AP strategies. If better means more play for your money, you may use another. If hitting more royals is better, you change your plays to make that happen. Who says playing to get the result you desire is wrong?

[FloridaPhil]

What is needed on this forum is the acknowledgement that while making a profit playing VP is desirable, it is not the only motivation. If you desire a certain result and you accept the possibility that it may cost you long term, there is nothing "wrong" with making that choice.

I'm not sure where these "right" or "wrong" judgements come from. Certainly not from average players looking for an afternoon's entertainment. This doesn't mean you make your playing decisions based on hunches or superstition. If you want to be a better VP player, you should know the cost and ramifications of the decisions you make. Only then can you make the right one for the result you wish to see.

[oobla]

Since I play only occassionally at casinos, I will go against the math and hold three to a royal when strategy calls for a different hold. The slight cost difference is well worth the chance at a jackpot to me. If I was a frequent player, I would play it by the book.

[olds442jetaway]

In my book a tiny error is not an error if it added to my overall enjoyment of the game and my trip in general. The times that the error comes through makes you feel yeah...I got them at any rate.

[Tedlark]

I gotta ask: other than profit, what other motive is there to go for a royal flush? I know I"ll get the story(?) that hitting a royal extends an entertainment player's session but just what are you extending the session for? To hit another royal? Is it an entertainment player's objective to come home with lint in their pockets after investing all their gambling funds in the entertainment of playing video poker?

I'm sorry, I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole "Entertainment Players don't play for a profit" arguement.