Should everyone learn DDB?

Discuss proper hold strategies and "advantage play" and ask questions about how to improve your play.
BobDancer
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Re: Should everyone learn DDB?

Post by BobDancer »

why oh why was FP allowed back in this forum? In what sense was this an enhancement for the site?

He now makes more posts here than anybody else and they rarely say anything of value. But since his posts dominate in number and contain numerous idiocies, responses to his posts take up a lot of space here. And prevent useful discussion.

We could discuss a lot more video poker if he were relegated back to the Recreational Forum again.

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Post by treebakka »

The way I feel about DDB, if I'm going to take the variance jump I might as well play triple double bonus and shoot for the stars. My main three games are perfect for my main three moods: JoB for relaxing, DW44 for a small challenge, and TDB for spewing.

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Post by FloridaPhil »

BobDancer wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:36 am
why oh why was FP allowed back in this forum? In what sense was this an enhancement for the site?
I can understand your frustration with my posts. You would like this forum to be a platform where yours is the only opinion expressed. Banning me will accomplish that.

I have no issue with anything you say or do except for one. Professional video poker is not for the masses. I am sure you would agree. It has nothing to do with making anyone on this forum a better player. On one hand you tell players you can beat the casinos, then say they aren't intelligent enough if it doesn't work for them. Casinos do not make errors big enough to fund anyone's great lifestyle for long. What you are doing is creating an illusion that the casinos are stupid enough to let that happen. It would be great if we had the owner of South Point on this forum. We could ask him if he is that careless with his money. I think he knows exactly who is living a nice lifestyle off his video poker games and why he lets that happen.

In an earlier post I discussed the risks that could turn a positive VP game negative. You didn't respond. In case you didn't read what I said, here it is again.

Risk in investing can be calculated with some accuracy. In order to calculate the risk in a VP game that produces this much profit, you must assume a few things. You must assume you can find a game with a 15% net return. You must assume you can play without error. You must assume you don't get sick on tobacco smoke or lose your eyesight from the strain. You must assume you have a million dollars to invest. You also must assume the casino won't catch on to what you are doing and change the payout. AND, you must assume the right number of royals appear before your bills come due.

Unlike you, I believe this forum should be open to everyone and all opinions. I just happen to have the time to ask these questions and I am not afraid to ask them. What we need is straight answers without the self promotion. You seem incapable of delivering that. As long as you continue to glorify professional video poker, I will continue to point out it's dangers. I suppose you could talk the owners of this website into banning me as a nuisance. As a sponsor, I am sure they will listen. My hope is they will see what I am saying has merit. If you want to spend eternity arguing gambling for a living, perhaps we can set up a separate forum for that purpose? If not and you want to get back to the "game" of video poker, accept that some people play VP for entertainment and not all of them have low IQs

Again, let me state that I wholeheartedly believe advantage play is beneficial to those who have all the opportunities, skills and factors it takes to make it work. Those phantom casino errors you keep talking about are as common as positive Florida video poker games.

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Post by FloridaPhil »

treebakka wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:25 pm
The way I feel about DDB, if I'm going to take the variance jump I might as well play triple double bonus and shoot for the stars. My main three games are perfect for my main three moods: JoB for relaxing, DW44 for a small challenge, and TDB for spewing.
I agree with you. I never play high volatility games on a regular basis. I don't want to drive 3 hours round trip to the casino and go home in 30 minutes. When I play DDB, I limit my play and let what happens happen. I have never played TDB in a casino. I play it all day on this website for free and the game I play here is nearly 100%.

Your point is well taken. If you are going to take a shot at the moon, you might as well play TDB. If I played TDB last month, I would have doubled my two quad aces with a kicker hands. With a $20 investment, who cares what the better game is?

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Post by billryan »

Webman might start an investment forum where Phil shows us his 15% return on stocks.

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Post by treebakka »

FloridaPhil wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:52 pm
treebakka wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:25 pm
The way I feel about DDB, if I'm going to take the variance jump I might as well play triple double bonus and shoot for the stars. My main three games are perfect for my main three moods: JoB for relaxing, DW44 for a small challenge, and TDB for spewing.
I agree with you. I never play high volatility games on a regular basis. I don't want to drive 3 hours round trip to the casino and go home in 30 minutes. When I play DDB, I limit my play and let what happens happen. I have never played TDB in a casino. I play it all day on this website for free and the game I play here is nearly 100%.

Your point is well taken. If you are going to take a shot at the moon, you might as well play TDB. If I played TDB last month, I would have doubled my two quad aces with a kicker hands. With a $20 investment, who cares what the better game is?
I am fortunate to live right near a 9/7 tdb machine but I learned the hard way how massive the swings are in that game. BUT ive had insane upswings as well of course. I reserved TDB for when my friends are in town because it is more exciting for most players.

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Post by FloridaPhil »

billryan wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:20 pm
Webman might start an investment forum where Phil shows us his 15% return on stocks.
Funny you would say that. I have made investments that have produced over 15% return. When that happens, I sell half of it. I am paring back my stock holdings at the moment pending Mr. Trump's next Tweet. :wacko:

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Post by Chicagoan »

FP, all of us have from time to time made well north of 15% on a particular investment, but it is the total portfolio that counts. I'm interested----what is your total portfolio return as an average during the past 1 year, 5 years, 10 years?

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Post by FloridaPhil »

Chicagoan wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:58 pm
FP, all of us have from time to time made well north of 15% on a particular investment, but it is the total portfolio that counts. I'm interested----what is your total portfolio return as an average during the past 1 year, 5 years, 10 years?
My average return over the last five years has been a little over 10% per year. I would have to run the numbers for the one and 10 year returns. This year has been volatile. I have made money, but it's been a struggle. I am not a big investor in social media. Bitcoin is a joke. I like best in class companies that are going somewhere. My best long term investment over the years has been Apple and Berkshire Hathaway.
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Post by billryan »

I look at it like this. Would it be possible for Phil's investment advice to be any worse than his video poker musings?
After years of managing my own portfolio, I turned it over to TDAmeritrade. Got $3500 cash and no fees for the first year. If returns for two quarters are negative, there is no fee. I get a free lunch twice a year with my advisor, the ability to access all sorts of trading classes and more.
I don't actively even follow how it's doing. I honestly don't miss the hours I'd spend researching a possible investment, and it's potential competitors. I trust the hundreds of trained suits doing it for me."

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