Can You Keep From Losing?

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FloridaPhil
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Re: Can You Keep From Losing?

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markinca wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:17 pm
FloridaPhil wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:14 pm
All I am saying is this. If the combination of game odds plus comps and incentives in any VP game are less than 100%, it is less costly to play the game smaller than bigger. Anyone disagree?
I don't think anyone has ever disagreed with that.

The problems start when you follow this claim up with a statement like 'well ap strategy says to max coin the bigger game'. No, an ap would never do or say that.
I'm fine with that. I don't know anything about APs other than what I read about in books. The first book I read by an AP was "Bob Dancer's Million Dollar Video Poker". I assume when he finds a net positive VP game he plays it as big as he can for as long as he can. I misidentified that as AP strategy.

When I or one of my friends uses that strategy to play a net negative game, the bigger we play and the longer we play the more we lose.

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Post by billryan »

The insurmountable difference, as I see it is one poster insists that hands played is how you measure a game while everyone and everything else measures it by coin in.
Casinos base pay tables on coin in. Not hands played.
Casinos base comps on coin in, not hands played.
Advantage players measure the game in terms of coin in, not hands played.
We can assume everyone else is incorrect, or we can assume the solitary voice is.
One poster wants to measure individual session results, while all the experts say to ignore the short term and focus on the long term.
One poster thinks his advice trumps everyone else's. As long as one poster insists on starting one or more thread a week offering advice that is simply wrong, I'm not sure what can be done.

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Post by FAA »

This is quite a conundrum. FP generates sufficient coin in to trigger free rooms even on a weekly trip of anemic coin in, AFAIK! Gotta love the system. :lol:

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FloridaPhil wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:49 am
All the VP games I play are negative. Some are more negative than others. When I play a quarter 8/5 Bonus Poker game at max coins, my spreadsheet tells me I am losing approximately $5 an hour.
Phil,

Is the $5 an hour a guarantee?

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Post by FloridaPhil »

Waiting4RF wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:12 pm
Is the $5 an hour a guarantee?
I don't believe anything in video poker is guaranteed. Video poker is gambling no matter who plays it or how it's played.

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Post by FAA »

Sounds like a rhetorical question! Debate Team Alert.

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Waiting4RF wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:12 pm
FloridaPhil wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:49 am
All the VP games I play are negative. Some are more negative than others. When I play a quarter 8/5 Bonus Poker game at max coins, my spreadsheet tells me I am losing approximately $5 an hour.
Phil,

Is the $5 an hour a guarantee?
Why did you bump this? Haha

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