As has been confirmed by subsequent posts, this is correct. To me, there isn't a whole lot of value to these stats, which are averages over many different types of games.
Odds Difference
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Re: Odds Difference
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Yes, OMT, I agree. Perhaps they may be helpful in satisfying curiosity, especially those who ask, "What are the odds of … ?" without knowing where to look or how to calculate the numbers for themselves, but it appears they may be confusing if glanced at only cursorily. Once someone avails themselves of other tools that shows the best plays or statistics for a particular game (like strategy calculators, 5-card hand calculators, or software like VPFW) there might be little value to be had by these numbers. After a while, the more mathematical types with video poker experience may actually know approximations of these numbers off the top of their heads. One use for these stats might be if someone wants to estimate how long it will take them to get a certain hand if they are playing a progressive machine … or for someone who wants to hit a bucket-list hand like a dealt royal.
For my answer on this thread, I had to search a little bit because I thought I had seen the stats listed here a few years ago and could not recall where exactly they were located.
For my answer on this thread, I had to search a little bit because I thought I had seen the stats listed here a few years ago and could not recall where exactly they were located.
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Interesting point. In my 12 or so years of VP play I have never seen a "card of the day" promotion or any other casino VP promotion where a bonus was given for any specific VP hands. This must be a Vegas thing? There aren't any fish like that in my lake.BobDancer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:41 amThis kind of thing matters in a "card of the day" promotion, where you get an extra xxx coins for the right quad. Getting that bonus on jacks would be worth more than getting it on sevens. That is important in your calculation on whether the game is worth playing in the first place --- or which game offers the better odds.
Such a promotion can easily make what is called a "negative game" by some on this site into a profitable opportunity.
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Laughlin has the quad of the day too.
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In our casinos VP is tolerated not promoted. Playing VP earns less points and some promotions specifically exclude VP. I believe it's because our VP odds, as bad as they are, are better than our slot odds. It's a real treat to find a 99% VP game in the Southeast. It's still important to check the odds because you may find what you think is a 99% game is a 96% game. Lately they have been bumping up the bigger jackpots and cutting the payback on the more common hands. An example is 250/200/25/16/13/4/3/2/2/1 Deuces Wild. At first glance, it looks like 98.9% when it's actually 96.765%.
Looking for a profitable VP game in the Southeast is like trying to catch a marlin in the puddle down the street.
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Marlins aren't that hard to find in Florida if you count people in baseball uniforms.FloridaPhil wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:00 am
Looking for a profitable VP game in the Southeast is like trying to catch a marlin in the puddle down the street.
But, FP, you've stated here more than once that you're not interested in finding out exactly what promotions are in effect at each casino you visit. That's where the profitable opportunities exist. And you've made a business decision that no promotion is worth checking into --- and sure enough, you can't find good promotions.
I suspect the reason you can't find marlins is because you only see them if they're dressed like manatees!
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In fairness, he did say a marlin in a puddle down the street. The odds are incredibly low, even if you include people in baseball uniforms.
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Boring and irrelevant promotions in AC. Zillion entries for a good shot at a car!
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Was putzing around, waiting on my car to be ready, playing 7-5 Jacks with a $20 in free play when I hit a dealt full house ,sevens over fives.
Thing is four sevens was the card of the day. Getting it paid a $25 Bonus plus an entry in a raffle for $100 cash or a $50 bar tab. Bartender says it's usually about 20 people in the weekly raffle.
Break the FH or just soldier on?
Thing is four sevens was the card of the day. Getting it paid a $25 Bonus plus an entry in a raffle for $100 cash or a $50 bar tab. Bartender says it's usually about 20 people in the weekly raffle.
Break the FH or just soldier on?
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I assume you're playing quarters, so the 35 credit full house is worth $8.75. If you dump the FH and go for the quad, you're still guaranteed 15 credits ($3.75), so you're giving up, at most, $5.00.
In return for your $5.00, you have a 1/23.5 chance of hitting the quad, 125 credits ($31.25), plus $25 plus a 1/5 chance at another $100 (call it as worth $20?).
All that being the case, going for the quad is worth about $3.25 ($76.25/23.5) which is somewhat less than $5.00, so keep the FH.
In return for your $5.00, you have a 1/23.5 chance of hitting the quad, 125 credits ($31.25), plus $25 plus a 1/5 chance at another $100 (call it as worth $20?).
All that being the case, going for the quad is worth about $3.25 ($76.25/23.5) which is somewhat less than $5.00, so keep the FH.