Prediction: Crazy Town and Ranting (Could Trump beat Satan in tennis?)

[Carcounter]

I have said many times that Trump is a very flawed individual morally. I am from New York and knew this for many years. Having said that, I disagree that his policies will eventually backfire. I think they are working and will continue to work. i also think the people that voted for him knew of his flaws and that was in the equation. But we don't want open borders, socialized medicine and the like. That simple.

[DaBurglar]

I have said many times that Trump is a very flawed individual morally. I am from New York and knew this for many years. Having said that, I disagree that his policies will eventually backfire. I think they are working and will continue to work. i also think the people that voted for him knew of his flaws and that was in the equation. But we don't want open borders, socialized medicine and the like. That simple.

Reasonable post, but I myself fail to see how we have, or could have "Open Borders"? The reality is this, given the SIZE of the nation's borders, given the number of seaports brimming with trade vital to the economy, given the open Beaches, and given the fact that many people arrive in the US via airports on a legitimate travel/tourism visa, work Visa etc but then simply decide to "STAY" and work.....how do you propose to stop all that beyond what has already been attempted and done and which will continue to be done?

I'm honestly asking how much you want to spend and devote to a problem that NO ONE truly wants accurately measured for their own political reasons.....please do not invoke a "WALL" anymore....that concept has not been bandied about for a while now thankfully because it cannot work and would be a fiscal, logistical and political disaster.

Medicine? Socialized Medicine? Given that the USA currently spends BY FAR the most money on so-called "healthcare" and yet ranks abysmally low in Medical QUality and health of its citizens (anywhere from 21st to 26th depending on which study or article you cite) among all major developed industrial societies, what on earth have we got to lose for trying a modified version of Single Payer "Socialized" medicine for every US citizen? More important, given that Republicans are hell bent on killing what's left of obamacare if and when they secure Congress, WHERE or WHAT is their legitimate real alternative? (i.e. the REPLACEMENT in the whole "Repeal & Replace" cacaphony)??? I'm really asking, and really interested....I'll consider ANYTHING remotely reasonable and plausible to address this bubbling crisis of healthcare/costs/insurance/quality etc. If the Republicans truly have a plan, let us hear it and try it.....of course, if they don't really have any real plan, which is apparently the case, then that's a real problem given their zeal to kill what is currently in place, regardless of how flawed they think it is....

To give you some benefit of the doubt regarding your own assessment, Trump really COULD be a halfway decent, respected chief executive if he really DID try to just be a more decent, less jerk-off of a person! But it is increasingly obvious that the ONLY thing Trump knows, or knows how to do, is to be an obnoxious A-hole so that he is in constant chaotic conflict with whoever he perceives is his ENEMY of the Moment (or friend even!) This is going to be a really HUGE problem when something UNPLANNED and UNEXPECTED happens, like a major disaster or crisis....THEN the folly of what this guy has been doing will become all too apparent to even the brainwashed.

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like many of the positive things trump has done and have not been covered, he has not taken a single paycheck from the government. if he needs medical attention due to his eating habits, the $400k/year he does not take, will likely cover it. silly argument.

flawed, loud mouth, needing affirmation, seeking attention, etc.....all true. but, we knew this.

those who support him, support his policies, not neccessarily the man himself. although, i give him high marks for standing firm in the face of an investigation that has found NO crimes against him, a media barrage that hates him and would rather report negatives than positives and a washington establishment that preferred the status quo.

he measures himself by his accomplishments and he expects others to do the same. when he asks a general, why aren't we winning more battles after 17 years of war, he is criticized as a buffoon. it is a darn good question, he got the military the money and expects results. when china is slowly over taking the usa and our trade policies support china's rise, he asks why we should continue doing the same. when the usa over pays for NATO and the UN, he asks why continue doing so. the usa can no longer have manufacturing jobs, he proves them wrong. the list goes on. seems to me all common sense questions/actions.

that the thing about trump, one can like or dislike him, but he just does not accept some notions that have been accepted as fact.

[billryan]

How does the U.S. overpay for NATO? That's a nonsensical lie you evidently have bought hook line and sinker.

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according to THE ECONOMIST, in 2006 ALL nato members agreed to spend 2% of their country's GDP on defense.

according to 2017 article in BUSINESS INSIDER, a list is provided of all NATO members and and the actual percent of gdp, they spent on national defense (only 5 of 27 met the agreed target). some listed below;

usa-3.61%
britain-2.21%
spain-0.91%
canada-0.99%
italy-1.11%
netherlands-1.17%
germany-1.19% europe's strongest economic power
denmark-1.17%

want to know why these countries have more to spend on entitlements for their citizens, because they rely on the usa taxpayers protecting them.


after trump brought these numbers to light, some countries have been shamed into paying more.

[billryan]

If the U.S. is spending 3.6% on its total defense spending but devotes less than a third of that budget to European defense, and Germany devotes all of its 1.9% to European defense, who is actually shortchanged in the alliance?
I will ask it a different way.
Suppose you come to dinner with me and ten friends and we agree to split the bill. Does it matter to anyone there that I also will attend another dinner later and will spend more money elsewhere?
If you look at the records, you'll see most of the recent increases in Europe's defense spending traces back to Russias recent belligerence, and predates trumps rise to power.
In 2014, while trump was doing who knows what, NATO agreed to have all members spend 2% of their GDP by 2024. That's six years from now. How many bills due in six years do you pay now?

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first, i would no more be in the same room with you , much less eat dinner with you. second, you have a reading problem, germany spent 1.19%, not 1.9%. another error on your part.

they ALL agreed to spend 2% on defense and that was 12 years ago. only 5 have met their obligation, as of 2017 numbers. some of it is MY money being spent, while other countries are relying on usa taxpayers to defend them. no matter how you try to spin it, the usa has met and overpaid it obligation and europe, which as a whole, is a larger economic power than us, is not meeting their part.

as is often the case with liberals, when they lose an argument, they divert from the original point. trump supporters care about policies, they support him, even with all his faults, because he is attempting to correct abuses that have existed for years.

if you don't like the policies, i could care less. as your fearless leader has said, elections have consequences.

[billryan]

If you say so. I forgot who I was talking to.

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FORTUNE magazine reported that las vegas had the 2nd fastest home price growth in the usa for 2017. only seattle grew faster. many other publications report similar findings. according to TRULIA, the average home that sold for a little more than $180k in 2013, was selling in 2018 for a more than $260k. while still below the previous highs, strong gains for those who bought after the fall.

i recall a poster, who moved to vegas area back when home prices had sunk and gifted us with their real estate wisdom as to why it was wiser to rent than to buy. those who followed that advice would have missed on making a nice profit and depending on their situation, the gain may have been federal tax free.

i am guessing that poster spent their time scouting out vegas casinos where one could get an extra meatball on their spaghetti.

this same poster is always quick to point out any flaws/questionable comments that others may make.

[DaBurglar]

as is often the case with liberals, when they lose an argument, they divert from the original point. trump supporters care about policies, they support him, even with all his faults, because he is attempting to correct abuses that have existed for years.

if you don't like the policies, i could care less. as your fearless leader has said, elections have consequences.

Ah yes now I remember how this works.....

Well, I at least am glad you were able to acknowledge the guy is a hypocrite and lacking in personal integrity and character; There was a time not that long ago where, in order for a person to win a election he had to have (at least on the surface) a very good level of personal integrity and character. You could NOT actively and blatantly avoid military service and then boisterously portray yourself as a candidate as the ultimate patriot, with no compunction about "Bombing the Sh8t" out of others, nor could you actively disparage and belittle a lifelong public servant for his War Record as a POW (i.e. the late Sen. John McCain) .... AND STILL BE ELECTED TO OFFICE! You could not be divorced 3 times, each involving "trading in" an older aging wife for a more beautiful younger woman, while cavorting around numerous radio and TV studios taking every opportunity to be "on camera" (one of which catches you recorded as advocating grabbing women by the privates); all the while having barely secret affairs with other women (several of whom ultimately demand, and receive, "hush payments" which you do everything you can to cover up and deny) with the most infamous incident involving nothing less than a PORN STAR....and STILL be elected President! Nor could you have such a shady, shoddy, highly questionable (and DOCUMENTED) record and reputation as a so-called "businessman" starting from your earliest career days right thru to present day, and still be elected....President!

And whine and complain about "unfair media coverage" when you yourself do EVERYTHING you can to (1) disparage or criticize the Media who you formerly utilized whenever you could to promote yourself and "your brand"; (2) give the media real, plentiful and sordid instances of questionable, deplorable and wrongful actions and statements directly from YOU yourself (i.e. Via Twitter.); (3) Hire and surround yourself with the most embarrassing and obnoxious collection of questionable people ever seen in any white house administration, which in fact is just a mere continuation of your LIFELONG habit of surrounding yourself with sycophants who are there to just do your bidding, and say exactly what you want to hear! What on earth can you expect besides the so-called "Negative" portrayal??

We have not even broached the topic of the epic and absurd TURNOVER in the Trump Administration from ALL levels and departments....what does this say about the man around whom the whole thing is set up? Seriously how does any and ALL of this entire spectacle give anyone confidence going forward that Trump will not precipitate some epic disaster while in office, or how he won't BUNGLE or severely worsen the next extremely serious or catastrophic episode wherever, whenever and/or whatever it involves????