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[FloridaPhil]

So why in the world does our resident guru get upset when his words are quoted?
Can you imagine anyone else complaining that someone bumped their threads?

Please explain? I am complaining because you post senseless words that have no purpose other than to incite arguments. If you posted intelligent complete comments, I would have no reason to complain. If you disagree with me, say so and why. Don't snipe at us from a distance and expect to be respected.

[oobla]

I think we're stuck on Groundhog Day.

[billryan]

So why in the world does our resident guru get upset when his words are quoted?
Can you imagine anyone else complaining that someone bumped their threads?

Please explain? I am complaining because you post senseless words that have no purpose other than to incite arguments. If you posted intelligent complete comments, I would have no reason to complain. If you disagree with me, say so and why. Don't snipe at us from a distance and expect to be respected.

What ever gave you the idea I want your respect? Comedy gold.

[FloridaPhil]

What ever gave you the idea I want your respect? Comedy gold.

Billy, we need to stop this war of words between us.

I don't believe Advantage Play Strategy guarantees profit.
I think Bob Dancer is a good salesman.
I don't like his marketing because I am fearful it may hurt someone.

You don't like the way I play VP.
You say I ignore math.
You say I'm stupid for not wanting to experience huge swings in my pocket book.

I think more people lose playing VP than win and it will always be that way no matter what strategy they use.

What else is there to say? If we met in person, you might find I'm actually a nice person and I might learn the same thing about you. There is no use in repeating the same arguments all over again.

I post on this forum about playing VP the way I wish to play it. It has value to some people.

You post about VP the way you think it should be played. I am sure some people can learn from you.

Not everyone in the world wants to be an AP or play like one. Advantage Play Strategy has been known about for nearly 20 years. Look around your casino. Do you see anyone playing like Bob Dancer? You might. I don't. That's not because my friends are less intelligent, they don't want to. How you play VP and what you enjoy doing in a casino is a matter of personal choice. Let's leave it at that.

[OTABILL]

In another thread I posted, " For what it is worth, I am tired of repeatedly reading about Advantage Play on the recreational forum. It belongs on the Strategy Forum. Secondly, enough with BD, etc. Phil please let it go." Phil responded, "Works for me." As long as Phil follows through, that is good enough for me. Regarding BR (and others I might add), if he (they) would refrain from including personally denigrating language, that would also be positive. If these things happen, there is no reason to suspend anyone. Let's avoid repetitiveness in posts and keep the forum civil.

[FloridaPhil]

In another thread I posted, " For what it is worth, I am tired of repeatedly reading about Advantage Play on the recreational forum. It belongs on the Strategy Forum.

That is the reason we have two forums. Pick the forum where you feel most comfortable and stay there. You are not going to change anyone's mind with your posts.

[billryan]

I have $5 that Phil can't go a week without bashing Dancer or start a thread telling us what video poker players really want., or how AP is evil.
Any takers?

[OTABILL]

I have $5 that Phil can't go a week without bashing Dancer or start a thread telling us what video poker players really want., or how AP is evil.
Any takers?

You know what's sad? Within 30 minutes of my post, you post the above. All you are doing is validating Phil's initial post on this thread.

[Tedlark]

I read OTA's post about Advantage Play in the other forum and how it was more directly related to the Strategy forum and not the Recreational Play forum. I half agree with his assessment of where advantage play talk belongs. I said half agree because to me: talk of advantage play should also be talked about by recreational players. As Phil pointed out, he and his wife stay for free in hotel rooms provided by the casino. To me, that is making an advantage play. Phil went on to mention eating in restaurants and the meals were taken care of by the casino. Again, to me: that is an advantage play.

What I do find objectional though is Phil bringing up Bob Dancer when discussing free hotel rooms and meals. If Phil were to ELIMINATE talk of Bob Dancer whilst still talking about making advantage plays made by recreational players, that would be a beautiful thing. But for Phil to continually lob grenades at Bob simply because Phil doesn't care for Bob's business model is not fair to Bob.

[FloridaPhil]

If Phil were to ELIMINATE talk of Bob Dancer whilst still talking about making advantage plays made by recreational players, that would be a beautiful thing. But for Phil to continually lob grenades at Bob simply because Phil doesn't care for Bob's business model is not fair to Bob.

I covered this in another one of my posts today. What more is there to talk about? Bob hasn't posted on this forum in a long time. He gets frustrated because he can not accept that others have alternative opinions. That is the way the world works.

When you claim to consistently beat the casinos over a 20 year time period while 99% of the players in the world lose, you get some critics.