The Recreational Forum Has Been "Hijacked"

[FloridaPhil]

Let's keep the Recreational Forum free from Strategy discussions. Playing single coin is not a strategy. The majority of players on this forum play negative games. It's up to each player to decide how much they want to pay to play.

Let's post about things we can all talk about without getting into an argument. There are some great places to play VP despite not having positive games. Many of them are great family vacations. Places like Black Hawk, Biloxi, Cripple Creek, Miami and the Mohegan Sun are all worth a visit. My wife and I have been to more casinos than most members. We learned about many of them on this forum.

Let's each play VP our own way and stop trying to convince others our way is best. You won't have to listen to me tell you over and over again how CS saves me money and I won't have to listen to someone who claims to live a nice lifestyle playing the game. If someone wants to talk about that, they have the entire Strategy Forum to do it.

Webman should police this forum and stop nuisance behavior. If he thinks I am guilty of this, he should say so and I will correct it. If anyone continually posts rude comments or posts annoying responses, they should be told to stop. If they continue, the penalty should be being banned for a period of time.

All those Recreational Forum topics listed earlier sound good to me. I especially enjoy casino travel logs with photos. Let's get on with playing VP however we play it.

[FloridaPhil]

Here are the suggested topics. Someone else start the ball rolling.

Why do you play VP?
Do you go solo or with your significant other or someone else?
Do you meet friends there?
How much of a health hazard does second hand smoke pose and will that impact where, how long and often you stay/play?
How much of a social experience is a night at the casino?
Do you talk with others around you?
What percent of your time is playing VP and do you engage in other activities while at the casino. Which ones?
Do dining choices influence which casino you patronize?
Do you primarily play locally, only while visiting Vegas, AC, elsewhere or a combination of the two?

[Tedlark]

Phil what you seem to be avoiding is that playing single coin IS a strategy.

[billryan]

If you were a tree, what kind of a tree would you be?
What kind of tree is your spouse?

Do you drink while playing? While driving to the casinos, is the appeal of a free drink more compelling than the thought of playing?


If playing VP really is negative value for you, why not spend the time doing something enjoyable that isn't?

[FloridaPhil]

Phil what you seem to be avoiding is that playing single coin IS a strategy.

The definition of a strategy is "a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim." For many retirees and players on a budget, the amount you bet is not an option. It is determined by the amount of disposable income you have available for entertainment.

All video poker aims are not the same. The controversy comes when one person thinks his/her overall aim is better than the next persons? If we are ever going to stop arguing, we will have to accept that there are differences. I can accept that many VP players have the overall aim of making money. They should accept that some wish to be entertained for as long and as inexpensively as possible. Our aims are entirely different, but we share common experiences and interests. Let's concentrate on the things we agree upon and leave our differences behind.

[Tedlark]

Phil your first paragraph says it all. You have pushed CS (and it's updated CS 2.0) as a strategy with an overall aim to lose less money (and quite possibly, WIN less money) in a casino.

When some people play single coin video poker it's not only with the aim of losing less money in a casino, it could also quite possibly be that they are playing with money that they cannot afford to be playing with at all. We've all seen people in casinos dong whatever they had to do to get whatever money they could to play just a few more hands, hoping to get some hits that will keep them going. Are these people playing for their entertainment value?

[FAA]

Playing VP in Biloxi is not a net negative for FP, given the cushy generous perks his household's play produces. VP in AC is a net negative for me. I recklessly navigate the entire wager range to save, going bust over half the time. Solution: full pay quarter 99% of the time. Staying home to watch the grass grow as paint dries is more fun. So I shrug and pay the admission price as I learn discipline.

[olds442jetaway]

I have to agree that CS is a strategy. It is just not a strategy to win money long term. That said, you could post.....Good morning, how is everyone doing today? and you will get an argument from at least one poster.

[Eduardo]

IS it a good morning, olds? IS IT REALLY?!??!?!?!